Total score

dooey100 · 06-19-2008, 05:52 PM

Basically, it would be the sum of your best score on all the songs. It would serve the same function as average rank, but it would never get worse, and it would be easier to keep track of improvement. A 500,000 point improvement on one song could mean as little as .1 average rank increase, which would probably be passed even before you reload levelrank.php. The same increase would look nicer on your total score.

And I doubt it would even take much time, all the data is already on levelrank.php

Xx{Midday}xX · 06-19-2008, 05:53 PM

-No need for a self-esteem booster. There's enough of that here, not that I ever cared about self-esteem in respect to this game.
-Takes up space on database for no practical purpose.

So I disagree. If you have time to be happy about a 500,000 point increase on a song, keep practicing until you can get a levelrank lower than 50.

Yes, I edited this post about 5 times.

Also, if you pass a decent FC on a song, your levelrank isn't prone to change so often.

dooey100 · 06-19-2008, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xx{Midday}xX

-No need for a self-esteem booster
-Takes up space on database for no practical purpose

So I disagree.

Yes, I edited this post about 5 times.

Actually, it doesn't need to take up any space at all. It could be calculated whenever you reload levelrank.php, and not actually saved.

And whats wrong with another way to keep track of improvement?

**Adamaja456** · 06-19-2008, 06:05 PM

you have average rank to keep track of improvment.

higher points on song=lower rank=lower average rank

Xx{Midday}xX · 06-19-2008, 06:06 PM

I believe that tier points, AAA#, FC#, skill tokens, and levelrank are already far more than enough ways to measure improvement.

Like my edit says, if you have time to be happy about a 500,000 point increase, go practice the song until you can AAA it. In regards to songs like Death Piano, until you can get a decent score on it.

Also, no matter how small, if something is added, then it takes up space (the code for the calculation, for example). If the space is unnecessary, it doesn't need to be added.

**devonin** · 06-19-2008, 06:14 PM

The more stats that are visible to players, the more differnet kinds of accomplishment people can work towards, the more kinds of people will find something they want to keep playing to improve.

Any stat tabulation and display that isn't too heavy on the database is a good idea IMO.

Xx{Midday}xX · 06-19-2008, 06:19 PM

I think the variety of songs in the game account enough for that. There are many benchmark songs that people work towards, like AAAing Vertex BETA or Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival etc. There would be infinite ways to add improvement measurement. There has to be some sort of restriction. At least, redundant ones like this (it's just a more "detailed" analysis of levelrank) can be omitted.

**rushyrulz** · 06-19-2008, 06:20 PM

Hasn't this been suggested before? I don't like the idea. Average rank serves the exact same purpose.

**emerald000** · 06-19-2008, 06:25 PM

They are not the same thing at all. Let's say someone got from a (1) to an AAA on Excite Bike. While his average rank will jump up by quite a lot, his total score almost won't rise.

dooey100 · 06-19-2008, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonin

The more stats that are visible to players, the more differnet kinds of accomplishment people can work towards, the more kinds of people will find something they want to keep playing to improve.

Any stat tabulation and display that isn't too heavy on the database is a good idea IMO.

Agreed

The more different possible goals there are, the more people will keep trying to reach those goals, and the longer they will keep playing FFR.

I'm not web designer, but if I would hazard a guess, the database hit would be even less that the database hit from adding a single song to the game.

**Tasselfoot** · 06-19-2008, 06:40 PM

it has been suggested before. i just don't see the need. yes, it is a bit different from average rank... but it isn't THAT much different.

GamerShadow · 06-19-2008, 07:20 PM

It certainly beats the crap out of grand total score. I mean, seriously, what is the point of that anymore? I think this should decide "Overall FFR Rank". Which is so inaccurate right now, it's scary.

Xx{Midday}xX · 06-19-2008, 07:35 PM

Overall FFR Rank wasn't designed to keep track of rank based on skill.

Overall FFR Rank/Grand Total Score is something used to brag about your experience and history of FFR.

I like the existence of OFR/GTS. It's the only measurement of playing density. Basically, how much time you spend playing FFR.

2000th post.

**Tasselfoot** · 06-19-2008, 07:35 PM

it's not inaccurate at all if it measures exactly what it is supposed to measure.

06-19-2008, 05:52 PM	#1
dooey100 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 370	Total score Basically, it would be the sum of your best score on all the songs. It would serve the same function as average rank, but it would never get worse, and it would be easier to keep track of improvement. A 500,000 point improvement on one song could mean as little as .1 average rank increase, which would probably be passed even before you reload levelrank.php. The same increase would look nicer on your total score. And I doubt it would even take much time, all the data is already on levelrank.php

06-19-2008, 05:53 PM	#2
Xx{Midday}xX FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: My own world. Miserable. Disgusting. Appalling. Pessimistic. Horrific. Terrible. Posts: 3,518	Re: Total score -No need for a self-esteem booster. There's enough of that here, not that I ever cared about self-esteem in respect to this game. -Takes up space on database for no practical purpose. So I disagree. If you have time to be happy about a 500,000 point increase on a song, keep practicing until you can get a levelrank lower than 50. Yes, I edited this post about 5 times. Also, if you pass a decent FC on a song, your levelrank isn't prone to change so often. __________________ Any *FFR song title* discrepancies? List them here. Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free *Accumulating all playstyles here!* つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`) Last edited by Xx{Midday}xX; 06-19-2008 at 06:04 PM..

06-19-2008, 06:05 PM	#4
Adamaja456 Absurd Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 31 Billion Club, WA Age: 34 Posts: 6,433	Re: Total score you have average rank to keep track of improvment. higher points on song=lower rank=lower average rank __________________ 582 Tier Points(Tier 3) 602 AAAs(517+23+62) People who bought me subscriptions/tokens: DrugstoreCowboy(1 month) ELRayford(3 months) ~GJampa(3 months) Jerry DB(3 months) 4th place in Gamewhore Competition(3 months) Phynx(FGJ album and Dendrite V2) dragon890x(1 year) Slide(1 year)

06-19-2008, 06:06 PM	#5
Xx{Midday}xX FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: My own world. Miserable. Disgusting. Appalling. Pessimistic. Horrific. Terrible. Posts: 3,518	Re: Total score I believe that tier points, AAA#, FC#, skill tokens, and levelrank are already far more than enough ways to measure improvement. Like my edit says, if you have time to be happy about a 500,000 point increase, go practice the song until you can AAA it. In regards to songs like Death Piano, until you can get a decent score on it. Also, no matter how small, if something is added, then it takes up space (the code for the calculation, for example). If the space is unnecessary, it doesn't need to be added. __________________ Any *FFR song title* discrepancies? List them here. Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free *Accumulating all playstyles here!* つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`) Last edited by Xx{Midday}xX; 06-19-2008 at 06:19 PM..

06-19-2008, 06:14 PM	#6
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: Total score The more stats that are visible to players, the more differnet kinds of accomplishment people can work towards, the more kinds of people will find something they want to keep playing to improve. Any stat tabulation and display that isn't too heavy on the database is a good idea IMO.

06-19-2008, 06:19 PM	#7
Xx{Midday}xX FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: My own world. Miserable. Disgusting. Appalling. Pessimistic. Horrific. Terrible. Posts: 3,518	Re: Total score I think the variety of songs in the game account enough for that. There are many benchmark songs that people work towards, like AAAing Vertex BETA or Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival etc. There would be infinite ways to add improvement measurement. There has to be some sort of restriction. At least, redundant ones like this (it's just a more "detailed" analysis of levelrank) can be omitted. __________________ Any *FFR song title* discrepancies? List them here. Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free *Accumulating all playstyles here!* つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`)

06-19-2008, 06:20 PM	#8
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 31 Posts: 12,981	Re: Total score Hasn't this been suggested before? I don't like the idea. Average rank serves the exact same purpose. __________________

06-19-2008, 06:25 PM	#9
emerald000 the Mathemagician~ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Quebec City Age: 33 Posts: 1,320	Re: Total score They are not the same thing at all. Let's say someone got from a (1) to an AAA on Excite Bike. While his average rank will jump up by quite a lot, his total score almost won't rise.

06-19-2008, 06:40 PM	#11
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Total score it has been suggested before. i just don't see the need. yes, it is a bit different from average rank... but it isn't THAT much different. __________________ RIP

06-19-2008, 07:20 PM	#12
GamerShadow FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In my Dungeon Age: 32 Posts: 2,534	Re: Total score It certainly beats the crap out of grand total score. I mean, seriously, what is the point of that anymore? I think this should decide "Overall FFR Rank". Which is so inaccurate right now, it's scary. __________________ Note to self Finish.

06-19-2008, 07:35 PM	#13
Xx{Midday}xX FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: My own world. Miserable. Disgusting. Appalling. Pessimistic. Horrific. Terrible. Posts: 3,518	Re: Total score Overall FFR Rank wasn't designed to keep track of rank based on skill. Overall FFR Rank/Grand Total Score is something used to brag about your experience and history of FFR. I like the existence of OFR/GTS. It's the only measurement of playing density. Basically, how much time you spend playing FFR. 2000th post. __________________ Any *FFR song title* discrepancies? List them here. Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free *Accumulating all playstyles here!* つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`)

06-19-2008, 07:35 PM	#14
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Total score it's not inaccurate at all if it measures exactly what it is supposed to measure. __________________ RIP

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