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Old 11-26-2007, 08:22 PM   #1
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Default 32nd-note rolls are evil.

These little devils right here.

Rare is the time when I actually hit them all, and when I do, they're chock full of Averages and Boos.
Any help here?
(I play left-hand, one-handed, three-finger.)
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:24 PM   #2
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Default Re: 32nd-note rolls are evil.

Time to switch to spread/four fing
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:27 PM   #3
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Default Re: 32nd-note rolls are evil.

If BPM is above 180, 32nd rolls would be a bit evil.
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:40 PM   #4
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Default Re: 32nd-note rolls are evil.

What is that? Idol? I SDG'd that annoying song. For some reason the averages on my scores bothered me. As for help, I can't really help you. Try spread ;D.

EDIT: Oop never mind i thought i had SDG'd it... lmao 15 goods not 9 .

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Old 11-26-2007, 08:47 PM   #5
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Default Re: 32nd-note rolls are evil.

These?
lol 32nd Rolls
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:55 PM   #6
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I'm not a 1 hand player, but, that looks like it would be impossible to do 1 handed unless you were incredibly fast. I'd highly suggest switching to spread/4-finger, you'll be able to do far harder songs and in a much shorter period of time. If you don't wish to make the switch, however, just use your current style and your right index finger on the right key so you don't have to move your fingers around for that pattern.
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:59 PM   #7
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Default Re: 32nd-note rolls are evil.

Play the up and down arrows as a jump, hit both keys with your middle finger.
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Old 11-26-2007, 09:02 PM   #8
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Default Re: 32nd-note rolls are evil.

Adding onto dore's comment, if you're confused, hit right arrow, then whack both up/down, then left. I did this when I one-handed. Good PA.

Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) is the only song with srstly evil 32nd rolls, because I can't combo the gayer ones.
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Old 11-26-2007, 09:05 PM   #9
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Default Re: 32nd-note rolls are evil.

They aren't that bad, just the third set of 32nds with very nasty 16th jumps clogged in afterwards.
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Old 11-26-2007, 09:19 PM   #10
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Adding onto dore's comment, if you're confused, hit right arrow, then whack both up/down, then left. I did this when I one-handed. Good PA.
Sounds like a good idea, but judging by the patterns, you got the directions mixed up. You'd want to hit the left arrow, whack up/down with one finger, then hit the right arrow. I'd suggest trying the way I mentioned and the way omg mentioned to see what works best for you, they're both pretty simple and easy to learn. Or just try spread, you'll probably surpass your old 1 handed scores within a month.

P.S. If you wanna learn spread fast, then play stepmania, play lots of different songs and try learning just two or three arrows at a time.
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Old 11-26-2007, 09:21 PM   #11
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Default Re: 32nd-note rolls are evil.

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Lol, nice spontaneous AAA. O_o

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Spread = a-s-num5-num6, right?
And Four-Finger is two fingers of each hand on the arrow keys, right?

I can't exactly use my numpad at the moment because a while back I did some crazy keyboard shortcuts with most of my numpad keys (e.g. pressing num4 opens windows media player).
I guess I've got enough skill in my right hand to attempt it... yesterday I was fooling around and played Sonic 2 (Boss Machine) right-handed and managed to keep it under 50 misses. But my hand hurt like hell afterwards.
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Old 11-26-2007, 09:26 PM   #12
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Default Re: 32nd-note rolls are evil.

oh, One handed?

I always found right to left rolls to be really easy. The left to right ones however, I never found a consistant way to PA them other than treating them as 24, 68 jumps.
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Old 11-26-2007, 09:28 PM   #13
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Lol, nice spontaneous AAA. O_o

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Spread = a-s-num5-num6, right?
And Four-Finger is two fingers of each hand on the arrow keys, right?
Spread is using a program such as autohotkey or MRichard's program (highly recommend it, easier to set up, less lag, and you can find it here)
to use any four keys you wish on the keyboard. A slight deviant from 4-finger using those programs could also be considered spread, so yes, a, s, num5, num6 is spread.

4-finger is using both hands on the arrow keys and/or numpad.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:10 AM   #14
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Spread is using a program such as autohotkey or MRichard's program (highly recommend it, easier to set up, less lag, and you can find it here)
to use any four keys you wish on the keyboard. A slight deviant from 4-finger using those programs could also be considered spread, so yes, a, s, num5, num6 is spread.

4-finger is using both hands on the arrow keys and/or numpad.
or u could just use <, v, 8, 6
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:12 AM   #15
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Easy...
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:41 AM   #16
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Default Re: 32nd-note rolls are evil.

Hehe, give Torinouta's "rolls" a shot.
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:21 AM   #17
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Play the up and down arrows as a jump, hit both keys with your middle finger.
I'd approve that
You can also try sliding your fringer from up to down for more accuracy
And if it still doesn't work, well..... get a laptop XD

Keys are lower, easier to press. lol.

If you still can't do it (or can't afford a laptop - was kind of a joke anyway)
Switch to spread, or just play this part with 4 fingers.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:06 AM   #18
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Hehe, give Torinouta's "rolls" a shot.
Oh, god, I have the hard version of that on SM, it's a barely-passable nightmare for me XD

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You can also try sliding your fringer from up to down for more accuracy
And if it still doesn't work, well..... get a laptop XD

Keys are lower, easier to press. lol.
I'm not allowed to play FFR on the laptop because of things like this.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:11 AM   #19
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I'm not a 1 hand player, but, that looks like it would be impossible to do 1 handed unless you were incredibly fast.
LOL not really.Try index.Thats harder to hit 32nd rolls with.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:41 PM   #20
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oh, One handed?

I always found right to left rolls to be really easy. The left to right ones however, I never found a consistant way to PA them other than treating them as 24, 68 jumps.
one hander here also...
yeh, i can combo like 8 consecutive right to left rolls (i think it was in for ffr or someing). but something like this? max 2 and if i get lucky, 3 rolls. i kinda got the speed for it, but as some1 said, Torinouta's "rolls" rly messes me up... and i guess i used to have trouble (still do abit) with coat czech.

actually, it's cuz of like these rolls at the end of TGWP part 2 that i can't fc it... best i've got was one miss... at the rolls.
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