Averages

**PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR** · 07-8-2007, 08:15 PM

What is the secret to getting them? I understand that you have to be x far off (where x is some amount of frames). But is there a trick that any of you use to get them. I'm having the hardest time getting them on purpose, and its making getting most of these tokens very difficult.

g4z33b0 · 07-8-2007, 08:16 PM

sound off, dark, different xmod then you usually use

**Goldenwind** · 07-8-2007, 08:16 PM

Try to hit the note just before it even TOUCHES the stepzone. With some practice, and good rhythm, you can get a lot this way.

**rshadow8888** · 07-8-2007, 08:17 PM

Sound off + Sudden + Dark + speed mod 1 step higher is how I would go about it. I tend to get a lot of averages... but then I also tend to lose focus and fail.

Edit: Ninja'd...

**Xception704** · 07-8-2007, 08:31 PM

I got this token on my first try with 309 averages.

I have a feel for getting perfects, so if I offset that in my head a little bit, I get a pretty good GA, and if I offset that even more, I get a pretty good AA.

**u84** · 07-8-2007, 08:32 PM

I hate when people use dark, mute or whatever. I think it should not be allowed for skill tokens.

spinal_compression · 07-8-2007, 08:34 PM

Memorise how the song goes. Not the steps.

Turn off your sound then play the song in your head a bit before the notes reach the goal.

jellygod · 07-8-2007, 08:36 PM

finally got it @ 255 averages. took me about 5 or 6 tries, i just played it normally. it takes me a while to get my AA up, but once i start getting a feel for it i eventually get it.

**Nightfirecat** · 07-8-2007, 11:54 PM

Just hit the note when the tip of the arrow hits the bottom of the area... that usually is the key to getting averages

The other hint is to make sure not to hit it too early, because otherwise it will give you a boo/miss..

**Silver_Brian** · 07-9-2007, 12:45 AM

Averages is the stupidest way to get a skill token. I feel like a nervous noob mashing keys ridiculously early. Sound off, xmod, dizzy, dark, hidden, ~90 avs.

jakalope · 07-9-2007, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver_Brian

Averages is the stupidest way to get a skill token. I feel like a nervous noob mashing keys ridiculously early. Sound off, xmod, dizzy, dark, hidden, ~90 avs.

Agreed

**Doug31** · 07-9-2007, 12:53 AM

Lol over 400 first try, don't remember the exact number. I just hit stuff early on 1.75x with no screencut when I normally play with a screencut on 2x. No other mods like dizzy or anything, and I did have sound, too.

jakalope · 07-9-2007, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug31

Lol over 400 first try, don't remember the exact number. I just hit stuff early on 1.75x with no screencut when I normally play with a screencut on 2x. No other mods like dizzy or anything, and I did have sound, too.

I hate you

**PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR** · 07-9-2007, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver_Brian

Averages is the stupidest way to get a skill token. I feel like a nervous noob mashing keys ridiculously early. Sound off, xmod, dizzy, dark, hidden, ~90 avs.

Thats almost my feeling. I'm just so used to trying to pa as good as I can, I can't do much worse. Granted, when I play 1x, dark, no music and mash, I can do these, but some of these are kinda ridiculous imo.

But yeah, thanks for the help, I was able to mash my way to whatever the most recent 200x avg or whatever. I don't think that I'll be able to do much else for a little while.

**sarahxjane** · 07-9-2007, 01:00 AM

I have trouble getting averages as well.

But I was able to get 190 or so for the Zodiac token with the sound on.

**Silver_Brian** · 07-9-2007, 01:08 AM

Crow Song was the ****ing stupidest token ever. Seriously probably the hardest one yet for me. Even though Zephon took me longer, I was always consistantly close on Zephon. I was nowhere close on Crow Song. Managed to get it completely on luck. x1.5 reverse screencut (only able to see bottom of the screen) then quickly moved the screen up and pa'ed the best I could the rest of the song.

link583 · 07-9-2007, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by spinal_compression

Memorize how the song goes. Not the steps.

Turn off your sound then play the song in your head a bit before the notes reach the goal.

Aye, muting it helps tons. Also, watch the spot where the arrows start to register as Averages and make that your new stepzone.

**Kotarouchan** · 07-9-2007, 01:47 AM

Play once, get the tune then: Mute, 1.5x, make the screen reverse cut to the point where you don't see the marker arrows on top. Play again.
I usually get the average amount correct by the second play. As for the Token, I did the exact same thing... except that I only average played for about 1/3 of the song, then stalled a bit to the point where I'd start getting perfects until the end of the song. That wasn't a hard token to get for me...

07-8-2007, 08:16 PM	#2
g4z33b0 Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Apex, NC Age: 33 Posts: 2,618	Re: Averages sound off, dark, different xmod then you usually use

07-8-2007, 08:16 PM	#3
Goldenwind FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Age: 36 Posts: 762	Re: Averages Try to hit the note just before it even TOUCHES the stepzone. With some practice, and good rhythm, you can get a lot this way. __________________ They say there's a sun in the sky...

07-8-2007, 08:17 PM	#4
rshadow8888 FFR's Buizel Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Connecticut Age: 33 Posts: 3,120	Re: Averages Sound off + Sudden + Dark + speed mod 1 step higher is how I would go about it. I tend to get a lot of averages... but then I also tend to lose focus and fail. Edit: Ninja'd...

07-8-2007, 08:31 PM	#5
Xception704 FFR Veteran Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 32 Posts: 3,984	Re: Averages I got this token on my first try with 309 averages. I have a feel for getting perfects, so if I offset that in my head a little bit, I get a pretty good GA, and if I offset that even more, I get a pretty good AA.

07-8-2007, 08:36 PM	#8
jellygod FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan Age: 34 Posts: 1,703	Re: Averages finally got it @ 255 averages. took me about 5 or 6 tries, i just played it normally. it takes me a while to get my AA up, but once i start getting a feel for it i eventually get it. __________________ RETIRED ___________________________ Best AAAs- Monstrous Turtles, Get down Styles- index,spread Tier Points: 148 Rank 8 in regional ranking(Great Lakes) "Never argue with stupid people, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

07-8-2007, 11:54 PM	#9
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07-9-2007, 12:53 AM	#12
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 36 Posts: 6,811	Re: Averages Lol over 400 first try, don't remember the exact number. I just hit stuff early on 1.75x with no screencut when I normally play with a screencut on 2x. No other mods like dizzy or anything, and I did have sound, too. __________________

07-9-2007, 01:47 AM	#18
Kotarouchan I only need 3 seconds :) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South California Age: 36 Posts: 2,030	Re: Averages Play once, get the tune then: Mute, 1.5x, make the screen reverse cut to the point where you don't see the marker arrows on top. Play again. I usually get the average amount correct by the second play. As for the Token, I did the exact same thing... except that I only average played for about 1/3 of the song, then stalled a bit to the point where I'd start getting perfects until the end of the song. That wasn't a hard token to get for me... __________________

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