phpBB vs Vbulletin

**Synthlight** · 02-23-2006, 04:19 PM

Ok, so here is the deal.

I have been running with phpbb2 for quite some time now and I am really sick and tired of all the security holes. What makes it worse is that I am running a postnuke to phpbb package called PNphpBB and it has a "special" modified version of phpbb that is usually a few (or many) versions behind the normal phpbb release.

So... I have taken the initiative to purchase Vbulletin (not cheap) and have been spending late nights practicing transfers over to vbulletin. This is not easy when you consider over 7000 attachments, 100,000 forum members and nearly half a million posts. Each "test import" takes about 5 hours to complete. Please remember that this does not change the whole site, vbulletin is ONLY for the forums.

The good news is that I was able to transfer everything intact.. threads, posts, sections, permissions, avatars, attachments.

If I were to make the transfer tonight, there are 2 things that would need to change.

1) You will have to login with your FFR login/pass once on the forums and then never again as long as you don't clear those cookies
2) I would need to change the look of the forums

Other than that, Vbulletin has about a zillion more features than phpBB and is quicker to search through.

Thoughts?

Cheers,

Synthlight

p.s. I will rid us of that nasty loading bar tonight no matter what.

**Kilgamayan** · 02-23-2006, 04:36 PM

I've already said this to you in private but I suppoose it's worth making public.

bjstrattonIM: The BMS 7.0 interface is bleh
bjstrattonIM: And it uses vBulletin
bjstrattonIM: vBulletin has some benefits over phpBB from the administrative perspective
bjstrattonIM: But the phpBB user interface is better

EDIT: By saying "the 7.0 interface is bleh" I mean the forums themselves. The extra BMS-exclusive stuff is done really nicely, I'm not commenting on that at all.

Afrobean · 02-23-2006, 04:38 PM

I've seen some vbulletin and it looks fine.

So long as all posts/things like that remain, I am fully behind a switch.

**Synthlight** · 02-23-2006, 04:40 PM

everything from the searching to editing posts is implemented in a better way for Vbulletin.. Agreed?

Cheers,

Synthlight

**lightdarkness** · 02-23-2006, 04:45 PM

I kinda like how Vbulletin lays everything out, and of course we can always customize it.

I think you'll all like the new stuff :P

**Jello** · 02-23-2006, 04:47 PM

Go for it. Phpbb is out of date and full of security compromises.

GuidoHunter · 02-23-2006, 04:50 PM

Personally, I love how phpBB works and looks, but you do what's best. Security holes certainly aren't cool.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

**lightdarkness** · 02-23-2006, 05:06 PM

Guido: I think many people will be supprised with VBulletin, just playing around with some of the settings shows many promissing features.

**Rebirth0** · 02-23-2006, 05:24 PM

I've always loved how phpBB looks. It's something I've liked for many years. If you guys want to switch to vbulletin go ahead.

Just remind me what vbulletin looks like, it's like Arch0wl's forums right?

**Kilgamayan** · 02-23-2006, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightdarkness

I think you'll all like the new stuff :P

If the decision to switch to vBulletin was predetermined, why were the users asked about it? o_O

**Moogy** · 02-23-2006, 05:32 PM

vBulletin is amazing. I am the only user whose opinion matters. Switch. Now. It totally destroys every other forum software.

Also, Kilga: You are FUCKING BLIND. The 7.0 forums look AMAZINGLY good, far, far, far, far better than ANY phpBB SHIT. Seriously dude. What the hell is wrong with you? O_o

**lightdarkness** · 02-23-2006, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kilgamayan

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightdarkness

I think you'll all like the new stuff :P

If the decision to switch to vBulletin was predetermined, why were the users asked about it? o_O

We asked for thoughts, the decision to switch was due to the halt in development in PNphpBB.

**Kilgamayan** · 02-23-2006, 05:35 PM

What do you want thoughts about? What we think doesn't matter, you've made the decision already.

**Jello** · 02-23-2006, 05:48 PM

Vbulletin is going to rock php. why even bother commenting on how it sucks kilga?
p.s. have you come out of the closet yet?

Afrobean · 02-23-2006, 05:52 PM

I like how Moogy comes in and says that he's the only one who is worthy of an opinion on the topic, even though everyone agrees with him.

**Kilgamayan** · 02-23-2006, 05:53 PM

Because I was asked by Synth over AIM what I thought of phpBB vs. vBulletin. It would have been rude to simply ignore him.

I suppose this is what I get for not reading the topic. The way he talked over AIM and the title of this topic made me think that we were going to discuss the pros and cons of each and then pick one based on public opinion. My bad.

EDIT: First line is @ Jello

Tokzic · 02-23-2006, 06:06 PM

phpBB is god-awful. I'll fully support a switch.

Tps222 · 02-23-2006, 06:13 PM

Go for it, people can always get adjusted to looks, security is important.

I'd like improved searching.

hydrojakep · 02-23-2006, 06:14 PM

Could i see an example of vBulletin? A good one, not bemanistyle.

**Synthlight** · 02-23-2006, 06:15 PM

well.. we can start the switch shortly if you guys want. I will have to shut down the forum until it is up though.

All in favor say "WIGGLES!"

Cheers,

Synthlight

02-23-2006, 04:19 PM	#1
Synthlight Administrator Founder, System Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: United States of America Age: 50 Posts: 3,052	phpBB vs Vbulletin Ok, so here is the deal. I have been running with phpbb2 for quite some time now and I am really sick and tired of all the security holes. What makes it worse is that I am running a postnuke to phpbb package called PNphpBB and it has a "special" modified version of phpbb that is usually a few (or many) versions behind the normal phpbb release. So... I have taken the initiative to purchase Vbulletin (not cheap) and have been spending late nights practicing transfers over to vbulletin. This is not easy when you consider over 7000 attachments, 100,000 forum members and nearly half a million posts. Each "test import" takes about 5 hours to complete. Please remember that this does not change the whole site, vbulletin is ONLY for the forums. The good news is that I was able to transfer everything intact.. threads, posts, sections, permissions, avatars, attachments. If I were to make the transfer tonight, there are 2 things that would need to change. 1) You will have to login with your FFR login/pass once on the forums and then never again as long as you don't clear those cookies 2) I would need to change the look of the forums Other than that, Vbulletin has about a zillion more features than phpBB and is quicker to search through. Thoughts? Cheers, Synthlight p.s. I will rid us of that nasty loading bar tonight no matter what.

02-23-2006, 04:36 PM	#2
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	Re: phpBB vs Vbulletin I've already said this to you in private but I suppoose it's worth making public. bjstrattonIM: The BMS 7.0 interface is bleh bjstrattonIM: And it uses vBulletin bjstrattonIM: vBulletin has some benefits over phpBB from the administrative perspective bjstrattonIM: But the phpBB user interface is better EDIT: By saying "the 7.0 interface is bleh" I mean the forums themselves. The extra BMS-exclusive stuff is done really nicely, I'm not commenting on that at all. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

02-23-2006, 04:38 PM	#3
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	Re: phpBB vs Vbulletin I've seen some vbulletin and it looks fine. So long as all posts/things like that remain, I am fully behind a switch. __________________

02-23-2006, 04:40 PM	#4
Synthlight Administrator Founder, System Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: United States of America Age: 50 Posts: 3,052	Re: phpBB vs Vbulletin everything from the searching to editing posts is implemented in a better way for Vbulletin.. Agreed? Cheers, Synthlight

02-23-2006, 04:45 PM	#5
lightdarkness Summer!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York Age: 35 Posts: 11,308	Re: phpBB vs Vbulletin I kinda like how Vbulletin lays everything out, and of course we can always customize it. I think you'll all like the new stuff :P __________________

02-23-2006, 04:47 PM	#6
Jello FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 612	Re: phpBB vs Vbulletin Go for it. Phpbb is out of date and full of security compromises.

02-23-2006, 05:06 PM	#8
lightdarkness Summer!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York Age: 35 Posts: 11,308	Re: phpBB vs Vbulletin Guido: I think many people will be supprised with VBulletin, just playing around with some of the settings shows many promissing features. __________________

02-23-2006, 05:24 PM	#9
Rebirth0 FFR Originalbro Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Age: 33 Posts: 8,750	Re: phpBB vs Vbulletin I've always loved how phpBB looks. It's something I've liked for many years. If you guys want to switch to vbulletin go ahead. Just remind me what vbulletin looks like, it's like Arch0wl's forums right?

02-23-2006, 05:32 PM	#11
Moogy 嗚呼 Join Date: Aug 2003 Age: 34 Posts: 10,303	Re: phpBB vs Vbulletin vBulletin is amazing. I am the only user whose opinion matters. Switch. Now. It totally destroys every other forum software. Also, Kilga: You are FUCKING BLIND. The 7.0 forums look AMAZINGLY good, far, far, far, far better than ANY phpBB SHIT. Seriously dude. What the hell is wrong with you? O_o __________________ Plz visit my blog ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

02-23-2006, 05:35 PM	#13
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	Re: phpBB vs Vbulletin What do you want thoughts about? What we think doesn't matter, you've made the decision already. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

02-23-2006, 05:48 PM	#14
Jello FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 612	Re: phpBB vs Vbulletin Vbulletin is going to rock php. why even bother commenting on how it sucks kilga? p.s. have you come out of the closet yet?

02-23-2006, 05:52 PM	#15
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	Re: phpBB vs Vbulletin I like how Moogy comes in and says that he's the only one who is worthy of an opinion on the topic, even though everyone agrees with him. __________________

02-23-2006, 05:53 PM	#16
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	Re: phpBB vs Vbulletin Because I was asked by Synth over AIM what I thought of phpBB vs. vBulletin. It would have been rude to simply ignore him. I suppose this is what I get for not reading the topic. The way he talked over AIM and the title of this topic made me think that we were going to discuss the pros and cons of each and then pick one based on public opinion. My bad. EDIT: First line is @ Jello __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

02-23-2006, 06:06 PM	#17
Tokzic FFR Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: TGB Age: 34 Posts: 6,878	Re: phpBB vs Vbulletin phpBB is god-awful. I'll fully support a switch. __________________ ~very popular guitar streamer~ Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

02-23-2006, 06:13 PM	#18
Tps222 FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 6,167	Re: phpBB vs Vbulletin Go for it, people can always get adjusted to looks, security is important. I'd like improved searching.

02-23-2006, 06:14 PM	#19
hydrojakep FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Earth. Age: 32 Posts: 2,293	Re: phpBB vs Vbulletin Could i see an example of vBulletin? A good one, not bemanistyle. __________________

02-23-2006, 06:15 PM	#20
Synthlight Administrator Founder, System Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: United States of America Age: 50 Posts: 3,052	Re: phpBB vs Vbulletin well.. we can start the switch shortly if you guys want. I will have to shut down the forum until it is up though. All in favor say "WIGGLES!" Cheers, Synthlight

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