US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground”

**Superfreak04** · 12-3-2011, 01:52 AM

"This bill, passed late last night in a 93-7 vote, declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” upon which U.S. military forces can operate with impunity, overriding Posse Comitatus and granting the military the unchecked power to arrest, detain, interrogate and even assassinate U.S. citizens with impunity."

http://newsvoice.se/2011/12/02/us-se...-battleground/

Video: http://newsvoice.se/2011/12/01/den-a...onen-ar-borta/

Discuss.

**basicdrummerman** · 12-3-2011, 01:57 AM

Choofers · 12-3-2011, 02:22 AM

uhhhhhhhh.

**DarknessXoXLight** · 12-3-2011, 02:25 AM

RIP Occupy Protests..........

**Jerry DB** · 12-3-2011, 02:33 AM

I think I'm gonna join the army...

Emithith · 12-3-2011, 02:36 AM

bwahah. Okay, I know where I am not setting foot in, let alone living.

supermousie · 12-3-2011, 02:43 AM

Yeah, why the **** not.

Reminds me of Do you want guns with your Happy Meal?

**krunkykai22** · 12-3-2011, 02:44 AM

This is probably the most idiotic thing I've ever seen, not to mention, until there is FULL evidence of the bill with it saying word for word what is written in that article, I'm not gonna believe it. But, if it IS in fact true, I'm moving out of this country.

**hi19hi19** · 12-3-2011, 02:47 AM

dat sensationalism

In other news global warming is happening, the icecaps will all be melted by TOMORROW OH MY GOD THE ****ING APOCALYPSE

supermousie · 12-3-2011, 02:49 AM

I swear if global warming does anything serious to anyone or anything, ever, I will willingly sleep with John Prescott.

Emithith · 12-3-2011, 02:51 AM

Hmm well if this is true, I wonder how many offenses etc you would get for even just talking to people from canada. Eh? lmao

OMFG YOU'RE ALL TERRORISTS NOW. *boom headshot BAM!*

Oh this is a global warming thread now, I have plenty of things to back global warming, and I ain't afraid to use it. :\

This sounds like a certain shrubbery president's work, but then again, Senate =/= ties to presidents, right?

**krunkykai22** · 12-3-2011, 03:00 AM

Well, for one, if this bill ever did pass, and is legitimate that is, I would willingly sit by and watch how many other countries either:

1.) Bomb the **** out of us.
2.) How many countries that are "enemies" turn to "allies."
3.) How much of an impact this will have on England, for lol reasons.

But, again, I, myself, am not going to be subject to that bullshit lol I'll go buy a shotgun/rifle and sit in a chair on my porch. Rofl, no rights? *Takes a shot* Good, no life. Bitch. lmfao

**ichliebekase** · 12-3-2011, 03:00 AM

Well, it's been nice knowing all of you. Everyone in America will likely die soon so enjoy extra living space.

Emithith · 12-3-2011, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichliebekase

Well, it's been nice knowing all of you. Everyone in America will likely die soon so enjoy extra living space.

Quick! Super exodus to Canada and...
nevermind, Mexico can suck it, Canada is where it's at 8)

**hi19hi19** · 12-3-2011, 03:08 AM

Nah just bringing up global warming because it reminded me of all the "icecaps gonna melt in 2 days!!11" sensationalism from a few years ago. I don't doubt the scientific basis for global warming, I do doubt the people who insist the water levels are going to drown us all within a month.

People enjoy blowing things out of proportion- either this is falsely reported, or a bunch of senators are going to be impeached. While US politicians are clearly pretty stupid, I still have enough faith in the system to think that we're not at the point of total anarchy yet.

Either way, interested to see where this goes lul

**YoshL** · 12-3-2011, 04:01 AM

lol, well this bill was passed by just the senate (93-7 vote though, what the actual f**k), so we'll see what happens in the house.

i'm leaving if it does pass though.

**Zon Fire** · 12-3-2011, 05:32 AM

rip america

**devonin** · 12-3-2011, 05:54 AM

Just read through the entire 21 page table of contents by heading, and there is not a single solitary thing in that bill that says anything like what your article is claiming.

It's pretty much entirely a budget and project appropriations bill identical in style and content to the same bill for 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008 and so on back.

Yay sensationalism!

The absolute closest anything in there comes to being what that article is talking about, is in a section regarding Guantanamo Bay, that basically says that people arrested during the course of hostilities can be detained there, without making a specific exception for "But not American Citizens" where they -do- make that exception in regards to some other stuff in the bill.

Which means, at worst, that during something actually defined as military hostilities, there's the -possibility- of a legal backing for the military choosing to detain you there instead of in any of the many military prisons located inside the US. Oh dear, the world is ending.

**A2P** · 12-3-2011, 05:54 AM

the passage has been modified so U.S. citizens are exempt from this.

http://blogs.philadelphiaweekly.com/...tion-provision

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...e-veto-threat/

Trogdor!!!! · 12-3-2011, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

While US politicians are clearly pretty stupid, I still have enough faith in the system to think that we're not at the point of total anarchy yet.

This

12-3-2011, 01:52 AM	#1
Superfreak04 FFR Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 33 Posts: 2,407	US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” "This bill, passed late last night in a 93-7 vote, declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” upon which U.S. military forces can operate with impunity, overriding Posse Comitatus and granting the military the unchecked power to arrest, detain, interrogate and even assassinate U.S. citizens with impunity." http://newsvoice.se/2011/12/02/us-se...-battleground/ Video: http://newsvoice.se/2011/12/01/den-a...onen-ar-borta/ Discuss. __________________ Last edited by Superfreak04; 12-3-2011 at 01:58 AM..

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basicdrummerman rusty old fart Event Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 32 Posts: 1,257	Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” wut. __________________

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Choofers FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Age: 33 Posts: 6,205	Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” uhhhhhhhh. __________________

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DarknessXoXLight sonder Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Chicago Age: 31 Posts: 2,279	Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” RIP Occupy Protests.......... __________________

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Emithith FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: London, Ontario, Maple Syrup Land Age: 28 Posts: 1,784	Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” bwahah. Okay, I know where I am not setting foot in, let alone living.

12-3-2011, 02:44 AM	#8
krunkykai22 <3 Jumpstream <3 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Middle of nowhere Age: 37 Posts: 5,436	Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” This is probably the most idiotic thing I've ever seen, not to mention, until there is FULL evidence of the bill with it saying word for word what is written in that article, I'm not gonna believe it. But, if it IS in fact true, I'm moving out of this country.

12-3-2011, 02:47 AM	#9
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” dat sensationalism In other news global warming is happening, the icecaps will all be melted by TOMORROW OH MY GOD THE ****ING APOCALYPSE __________________

12-3-2011, 02:51 AM	#11
Emithith FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: London, Ontario, Maple Syrup Land Age: 28 Posts: 1,784	Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” Hmm well if this is true, I wonder how many offenses etc you would get for even just talking to people from canada. Eh? lmao OMFG YOU'RE ALL TERRORISTS NOW. boom headshot BAM! Oh this is a global warming thread now, I have plenty of things to back global warming, and I ain't afraid to use it. :\ This sounds like a certain shrubbery president's work, but then again, Senate =/= ties to presidents, right? Last edited by Emithith; 12-3-2011 at 02:54 AM..

12-3-2011, 03:00 AM	#12
krunkykai22 <3 Jumpstream <3 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Middle of nowhere Age: 37 Posts: 5,436	Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” Well, for one, if this bill ever did pass, and is legitimate that is, I would willingly sit by and watch how many other countries either: 1.) Bomb the **** out of us. 2.) How many countries that are "enemies" turn to "allies." 3.) How much of an impact this will have on England, for lol reasons. But, again, I, myself, am not going to be subject to that bullshit lol I'll go buy a shotgun/rifle and sit in a chair on my porch. Rofl, no rights? Takes a shot Good, no life. Bitch. lmfao

12-3-2011, 03:00 AM	#13
ichliebekase FFR Simfile Author Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,213	Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” Well, it's been nice knowing all of you. Everyone in America will likely die soon so enjoy extra living space. __________________ Glorious Morning - Misc, level 48 We Will Fly - Dance 2, level 53 =.The Ocean.= - Dance 2, level 56, collab with krunkykai22 Garden Party - Dance, level 38

12-3-2011, 03:08 AM	#15
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” Nah just bringing up global warming because it reminded me of all the "icecaps gonna melt in 2 days!!11" sensationalism from a few years ago. I don't doubt the scientific basis for global warming, I do doubt the people who insist the water levels are going to drown us all within a month. People enjoy blowing things out of proportion- either this is falsely reported, or a bunch of senators are going to be impeached. While US politicians are clearly pretty stupid, I still have enough faith in the system to think that we're not at the point of total anarchy yet. Either way, interested to see where this goes lul __________________

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Zon Fire ♎♏ Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MN Age: 32 Posts: 1,082	Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” rip america __________________

12-3-2011, 05:54 AM	#18
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” Just read through the entire 21 page table of contents by heading, and there is not a single solitary thing in that bill that says anything like what your article is claiming. It's pretty much entirely a budget and project appropriations bill identical in style and content to the same bill for 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008 and so on back. Yay sensationalism! The absolute closest anything in there comes to being what that article is talking about, is in a section regarding Guantanamo Bay, that basically says that people arrested during the course of hostilities can be detained there, without making a specific exception for "But not American Citizens" where they -do- make that exception in regards to some other stuff in the bill. Which means, at worst, that during something actually defined as military hostilities, there's the -possibility- of a legal backing for the military choosing to detain you there instead of in any of the many military prisons located inside the US. Oh dear, the world is ending. Last edited by devonin; 12-3-2011 at 05:59 AM..

12-3-2011, 05:54 AM	#19
A2P FFR Veteran Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nah Age: 34 Posts: 3,127	Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” the passage has been modified so U.S. citizens are exempt from this. http://blogs.philadelphiaweekly.com/...tion-provision http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...e-veto-threat/

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