Mines in KeyBeat - Page 3

who_cares973 · 10-2-2009, 03:11 PM

having scores not count because mines are off is stupid unless the score is really affected by mine usage

**ninjaKIWI** · 10-2-2009, 03:18 PM

Why not have a score DB for mines and no mines.

**bLasTamos** · 10-2-2009, 03:29 PM

What if we just make some holds release-forced instead of having mines?

ClAsSiC_RoCkEr · 10-2-2009, 03:45 PM

I'm surprised that "probably, but only if they're used right" is almost a tie with "most definitely."

there better not be any BS mine songs in KBO :\ I like my solo fun and not tainted with unfun.

p.s.

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Originally Posted by bLasTamos

What if we just make some holds release-forced instead of having mines?

god please no. That's one of the main reasons why I never got into O2.

**-paexaea-** · 10-2-2009, 03:54 PM

Yeah seriously, holds release-forced is a bad idea.

also **** you xiao, i made that joke mentally and didnt post it in time :^

stargroup · 10-2-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by who_cares973

having scores not count because mines are off is stupid unless the score is really affected by mine usage

doesn't matter, it's not consistent

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Originally Posted by ninjaKIWI

Why not have a score DB for mines and no mines.

too unnecessary. you'd have only a small handful of songs that even need both score db's as most files don't have mines in the first place

also, for people obsessed with score, that means playing the file at least twice

**bLasTamos** · 10-2-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ClAsSiC_RoCkEr

god please no. That's one of the main reasons why I never got into O2.

I said some, the ones that are supposed to have mines after them could be replaced with forced holds.

jugglinguy · 10-2-2009, 05:13 PM

To my blastamos:
nonononononono
nonononono

**Patashu** · 10-2-2009, 07:57 PM

I'm not for force released holds for the double whammy of:
1. It forces stepcharters to push their holds to the very length of the sound that they represent (and also makes expressive minifreezes nigh impossible to use)
2. It means that, in charts where freezes don't always go to the end of notes (i.e. if 1 doesn't happen), you have to release at arbitrary points. also, what if a freeze ends in a fadeout or otherwise ambiguously ends?

basically force release holds damn you if you do, damn you if you don't

**One Winged Angel** · 10-2-2009, 08:09 PM

it's really hard to find pictures of a hand patting a shoe

stargroup · 10-2-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by One Winged Angel

it's really hard to find pictures of a hand patting a shoe

lmfao

also guys read more carefully, blast said SOME would be forced release holds, not all.

problem with that is that it's unnecessarily hard to read. even mines are easier to read in this case

**Patashu** · 10-2-2009, 10:13 PM

why would you have some holds be forced release when mines can accomplish the same thing, exactly

**Sprite-** · 10-2-2009, 10:55 PM

I'd rather have mines than force released holds...I'd never play the game if you had to release holds at a certain time.

**albaneenesk8r** · 10-3-2009, 03:33 AM

I have played more keybeat than FFR in the past week. I seriously would have had over 1bil in points for the week.. but NO!!!!

you people and your fun keybeating... caused me to become addicted xD i want mines.. and freeze arrows :O

**qqwref** · 10-3-2009, 04:12 AM

Mines would be a cool addition although it would make KBO much much more like SM (compared to the boo system). I really hope we don't end up with any cases where mines are right next to the note, though, because that always makes me annoyed when SM files do that. It's almost like avmisses.

EDIT: Oh, incidentally, can you make the 12th notes purpler? I can't tell the difference between them and 8th notes and it's annoying.

stargroup · 10-3-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by qqwref

Mines would be a cool addition although it would make KBO much much more like SM (compared to the boo system). I really hope we don't end up with any cases where mines are right next to the note, though, because that always makes me annoyed when SM files do that. It's almost like avmisses.

EDIT: Oh, incidentally, can you make the 12th notes purpler? I can't tell the difference between them and 8th notes and it's annoying.

I'm not sure if you have this option yet, but you can change the brightness of the arrows, which will give you a more distinct difference between the two colors.

**LongGone** · 10-3-2009, 10:07 AM

I hate Mines =(

(...when they're retardedly place right before or after a note)

DarkRazor · 10-3-2009, 11:50 AM

Yes to mines.
Screw (I SAID SCREW) O2-style holds.

That's all.

jugglinguy · 10-3-2009, 12:12 PM

How about. No forced release holds and no mines.

Boo system works perfectly fine, other than being able to hold holds, which isn't a major deal to begin with.

stargroup · 10-3-2009, 12:25 PM

we're taking out the boo system

View Poll Results: Should KeyBeat Online implement mines?
Most definitely.	24	26.97%
Probably, but only if they're used right.	28	31.46%
Not really.	27	30.34%
Not sure, I'd have to see how they're used.	10	11.24%
Voters: 89. You may not vote on this poll

10-2-2009, 03:11 PM	#41
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: Mines in KeyBeat having scores not count because mines are off is stupid unless the score is really affected by mine usage __________________

10-2-2009, 03:29 PM	#43
bLasTamos FFR Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 137	Re: Mines in KeyBeat What if we just make some holds release-forced instead of having mines?

10-2-2009, 03:54 PM	#45
-paexaea- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: skjandlurkelandia² Age: 33 Posts: 4,605	Re: Mines in KeyBeat Yeah seriously, holds release-forced is a bad idea. also **** you xiao, i made that joke mentally and didnt post it in time :^ __________________ See you, Space Cowboy.

10-2-2009, 07:57 PM	#49
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: Mines in KeyBeat I'm not for force released holds for the double whammy of: 1. It forces stepcharters to push their holds to the very length of the sound that they represent (and also makes expressive minifreezes nigh impossible to use) 2. It means that, in charts where freezes don't always go to the end of notes (i.e. if 1 doesn't happen), you have to release at arbitrary points. also, what if a freeze ends in a fadeout or otherwise ambiguously ends? basically force release holds damn you if you do, damn you if you don't __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

10-2-2009, 10:13 PM	#52
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: Mines in KeyBeat why would you have some holds be forced release when mines can accomplish the same thing, exactly __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

10-2-2009, 10:55 PM	#53
Sprite- HAVE ME WITH VODKA Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Age: 35 Posts: 7,316	Re: Mines in KeyBeat I'd rather have mines than force released holds...I'd never play the game if you had to release holds at a certain time.

10-3-2009, 04:12 AM	#55
qqwref stepmania archaeologist Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 34 Posts: 4,090	Re: Mines in KeyBeat Mines would be a cool addition although it would make KBO much much more like SM (compared to the boo system). I really hope we don't end up with any cases where mines are right next to the note, though, because that always makes me annoyed when SM files do that. It's almost like avmisses. EDIT: Oh, incidentally, can you make the 12th notes purpler? I can't tell the difference between them and 8th notes and it's annoying. __________________ Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81) Best SDG: PANTS (86) Best FC: Future Invasion (93) Last edited by qqwref; 10-3-2009 at 04:15 AM..

10-3-2009, 12:25 PM	#60
stargroup FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 974	Re: Mines in KeyBeat we're taking out the boo system __________________ (´･ω･`)

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