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Old 12-3-2011, 07:40 AM   #21
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Default Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground”

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Just read through the entire 21 page table of contents by heading, and there is not a single solitary thing in that bill that says anything like what your article is claiming.

It's pretty much entirely a budget and project appropriations bill identical in style and content to the same bill for 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008 and so on back.

Yay sensationalism!

The absolute closest anything in there comes to being what that article is talking about, is in a section regarding Guantanamo Bay, that basically says that people arrested during the course of hostilities can be detained there, without making a specific exception for "But not American Citizens" where they -do- make that exception in regards to some other stuff in the bill.

Which means, at worst, that during something actually defined as military hostilities, there's the -possibility- of a legal backing for the military choosing to detain you there instead of in any of the many military prisons located inside the US. Oh dear, the world is ending.
Ah, I see. Oh well, I only posted this since it was blowing up all over Face Book, so I thought I'd share it with FFR to get peoples ideas on it.
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Old 12-3-2011, 07:52 AM   #22
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I better move up more north, so that if the U.S. does **** itself over, Canada will be a lot closer.
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Old 12-3-2011, 08:31 AM   #23
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Default Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground”

Now we have to rely on the House to disapprove it. If not, we have to look up to Obama.

Oh boy...
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Old 12-3-2011, 09:13 AM   #24
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Now we have to rely on the House to disapprove it. If not, we have to look up to Obama.

Oh boy...
Do you read anything besides the OP? There's no bill stating anything like what the media is saying. If you're not going to read a thread don't post in it.
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Old 12-3-2011, 09:21 AM   #25
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Default Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground”

Lulz this thread was a good read.

Can't wait for the media hype to start placing troops in my backyard...owait, the media hype can't do sh!t.

On another note I'd probably consider Canada if things got bad enough. But they say pop..
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Old 12-3-2011, 09:44 AM   #26
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Lawl justin xD Imma be in yo back yard! Be right there!
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Old 12-3-2011, 09:52 AM   #27
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Oh bby you can be in my backyard anytime you want.

I don't understand where the media comes up with stuff like this from things like that. They just....don't make sense.
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Old 12-3-2011, 10:29 AM   #28
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Well, it's been nice knowing all of you. Everyone in America will likely die soon so enjoy extra living space.
That sounds relaxing. I can't wait for the peace and quiet.
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Old 12-3-2011, 10:58 AM   #29
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Default Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground”

Not surprising that they're plotting to make us look like idiots. Time to move to Canada
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Old 12-3-2011, 11:04 AM   #30
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Everyone is blowing things out of proportion.

This same bill is passed every year. It essentially assigns the Navy money for ships, the Army money for rifles, ect. Common sense should tell you NONE OF OUR RIGHTS ARE BEING VIOLATED.

If there were secret prisons and arrests, ect. America would revolt, ending very badly for the government.

And, for the record, I’m 14. So, seriously, use your heads.
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Old 12-3-2011, 02:17 PM   #31
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Default Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground”

Bullllllllshiittttttt.
Also, that's not even an American news site. ._.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...scal_Year_2012
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Old 12-3-2011, 02:48 PM   #32
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oh, so the Exodus to Canada is off? I was planning a big ol' FFR party.
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Old 12-3-2011, 03:41 PM   #33
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Default Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground”

for the record, this is the bill in question:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.1867:
you all have rand paul to thank for killing the amendment that would have allowed detaining americans indefinitely:
http://paul.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=399
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Old 12-3-2011, 04:15 PM   #34
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Do you read anything besides the OP? There's no bill stating anything like what the media is saying. If you're not going to read a thread don't post in it.
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Old 12-3-2011, 04:47 PM   #35
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Old 12-3-2011, 05:08 PM   #36
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Default Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground”

Heard about this bill about the detainees and all, but I think I heard that the White House is planning to veto this anyways.
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Old 12-3-2011, 05:15 PM   #37
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Bullllllllshiittttttt.
Also, that's not even an American news site. ._.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...scal_Year_2012

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Show me where. Also it doesn't matter if it's an American newsite. How does the locaation of a newsite make it's information more or less credible?
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Old 12-3-2011, 05:37 PM   #38
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Default Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground”

that wikipedia article doesn't even say anything lmfao
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Old 12-3-2011, 06:00 PM   #39
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Default Re: US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground”

So me and my friend are having an discussion on this. He's using "This bill, passed late last night in a 93-7 vote, declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground” upon which U.S. military forces can operate with impunity, overriding Posse Comitatus (martial law) and granting the military the unchecked power to arrest, detain, interrogate and even assassinate U.S. citizens with impunity." as a reason for this being legit.

Now, is there evidence that shows that this is a load of BS? I know Devonin said that he read the bills and that nothing came about anything close to what the article and video are saying. So is there any concrete proof that debunks this video? Or can you at least link me to the bill that may debunk this article? Kind of makes me wonder why they would put an article out like that if it has nothing to do with the actual bill. ._.
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Old 12-3-2011, 06:11 PM   #40
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The media does this shit all the time. The link was posted above which I one of MANY reasons to read at least the last couple pages of a thread.
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