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Yes, Grandtotal/credits earned should be determined by Raw Scoring. | 34 | 42.50% | |
No, Grandtotal/credits earned should continue to be determined by Combo Scoring. | 46 | 57.50% | |
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05-4-2015, 01:58 AM | #1 |
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Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
June edit: Thank you everyone for your feedback. The Grandtotal scoring system will continue to be calculated using Combo Scoring. This is still subject to change, so any additional updates will be announced on the front page.
Raw Scoring is now the default scoring system across all engines. However, Combo Scoring still plays an important role here on FFR. Your Grandtotal and credits earned after playing a song are determined by Combo Scoring. For those in favor of phasing out Combo Scoring completely, I would propose the following model: The Grandtotal of a “AAA” score divided by its Raw Score is 31. Therefore, multiplying your final Raw Score by 31 would generate your new Grandtotal. What Grandtotal model should FFR use in the future? We will use your feedback to determine which model is best for the future of FFR. Our decision will be announced and take effect on June 1st. Code:
Current “Combo Scoring” Grandtotal Model: (Max Combo x 1000) + ( Perfect x 550 ) + ( Good x 275 ) + ( Average x 55 ) - ( Miss x 310 ) - ( Boo x 20 ) Proposed “Raw Scoring” Grandtotal Model: 31 x ( Perfect x 50 ) + ( Good x 25 ) + ( Average x 5 ) - ( Miss x 10 ) - ( Boo x 5 ) Last edited by PrawnSkunk; 06-3-2015 at 04:01 PM.. |
05-4-2015, 02:32 AM | #2 |
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
I see no real flaws here, the only downside would be for people trying to get credits via combo scoring (full combo low PA). Not bothering to do the math here; what happens when you compare a score with variable Good/Average full combo in both scoring methods. Does the formula fluctuate at different points? (in a comparison of similar scores)
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
I believe that grand total could be accumulated as explained in the op, however I think that credits should be combo locked. Combo and credits are both pretty much irrespective of skill, and it would be nice to keep a "bonus" for having high combos.
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05-4-2015, 04:25 AM | #4 | |
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
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05-4-2015, 05:09 AM | #5 |
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
combo for the credits and raw scoring for the grandtotal...
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05-4-2015, 05:29 AM | #6 |
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
Is it easier to rack up points using the proposed raw scoting formula ? Because I have the impression that it would be harder to get 500 million/1 billion per day. I could be wrong.
Also, yes, credits should definitely be calculated with combo scoring.
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05-4-2015, 08:48 AM | #7 |
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
Multiplying raw score by 31 effectively gives you the old score with a full combo. So, yes.
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05-4-2015, 10:40 AM | #8 |
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
With some rough calculations here: The average quad mash on VS Boss Battle would probably go from something like 1.1-1.2m with combo scoring down to 900-950k (did a few test runs and calculated the raw total score). That brings the required time spent from ~14-15 hrs to ~17-19 hrs... which I think would make it much more difficult than previously, considering the amount of leeway time you are cutting. You'd have to really focus on PA the entire time or you'd just have to go for longer and take less breaks, either of which are a lot of strain after you've already been going for that long. Still quite possible, just a lot more of a pain in the butt.
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05-4-2015, 10:48 AM | #9 |
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
With combo not affecting GT gained, wouldn't vROFL then give an unjustifiably high amount of GT/time with little effort?
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05-4-2015, 10:51 AM | #10 |
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
There are way too many people on this site (myself included) that pride themselves by reaching certain grand total score milestones. To get that wiped out would be a total disgrace. What's the point of this transition? All other ranking is already done by raw score. Total score can't be obliterated since it is used to determine credit payouts, so it's not a matter of some agenda to get rid of total score altogether. I think you just hate us gamewhores.
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
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Personally, keep GT/Credits with Combo Scoring while score recording and tournaments stay based off of Raw Scoring. Just a little observation as I was gone for a few days, I know that this is a question/poll that is nearly important to FFR's future, but I agree with Rushy.
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05-4-2015, 11:07 AM | #12 |
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
Also, how would it be possible to convert current GTs to raw scoring GTs? As far as I can tell each profile's GT is composed of a sum of thousands of plays, much of which the only thing being recorded is the combo score that's added to the GT. I'm doubtful that one could take a profile and run a decomposition of every song an account has played and convert each song to raw scoring GT and re-sum them.
I'd be in favor of keeping combo for GT and credits as otherwise there's just about no meaning behind a FC, which makes that whole stat bar kind of pointless. If you've got a better non-FC raw score there's not really an incentive to FC except to get rid of that 2.4g *ahem* that miss. Last edited by Deidara837; 05-4-2015 at 11:08 AM.. |
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i still voted no because making it harder to accumulate GT on near-perfect scores is kinda lame
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05-4-2015, 11:51 AM | #14 |
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
Grandtotal can still be based off of the combo scoring formula for all I care, but credits definitely should be based off of raw score imo.
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05-4-2015, 11:57 AM | #15 | |
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
Thinking about it, I do think that raw scoring is a better calculation method BUT at the current state, switching to raw scoring would cause a devaluation of past grandtotals. It's been clear that increasing your grandtotal does not require skill but is simply a measure of your activity level. (which combo scoring is able to calculate)
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05-4-2015, 12:26 PM | #16 |
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
I don't think we should switch the grandtotal over unless there's basically an even grandtotal in the end. This is basically impossible though because breaking your combo would reduce your grandtotal score in the end by a lot, while raw scoring would only do it a little. It would be too much of a change for those that farm GT.
I have a suggestion (although probably not a great one), but we could add raw grandtotal as an additional individual stat starting at 0.
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
I vote no.
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
No.
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05-4-2015, 01:15 PM | #19 |
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
I have an idea : if possible, implement both scoring models and let the system chose the best score every time (to add to the grandtotal).
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05-4-2015, 01:24 PM | #20 |
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Re: Should Raw Scoring be used to calculate Grandtotal?
would pretty much void the value of a full combo. Aside from the raw score benefits on the higher-accuracy level
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