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Re: Is it wrong to be gay?
Fixed. I'm a girl type thing. Thanks.
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There is no God. God is a contradiction in terms. I'm betting an eternity of unimaginable suffering that I'm right, so you ought to take this seriously. In a Godless world, homosexuality is pretty much fine. I'm a utilitarian, so, I have a standard to refer to. Fags ****ing fags increases cumulative happiness. Seems good to me! |
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12-30-2010, 12:33 AM | #442 | |
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also clearly the existence of this gene would create a binary where you're either super-gay or super-straight and your outward expression of your sexuality would only result from the existence of that gene rather than your environment and social pressures also clearly in the modern world natural selection takes place because we have such a difficult time with our environments (which we built ourselves in order to not have to deal with the environment) and our only goals in life are to procreate
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12-30-2010, 08:59 AM | #443 | |
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also clearly every gene which doesn't help with reproduction has been rooted out of the human population, which is why there are no life-threatening genetic conditions. Nope. Not one in the entire world. |
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12-30-2010, 03:39 PM | #444 |
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And clearly all the passive-aggressive sarcasm makes you all look like very rational and reasonable people.
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12-30-2010, 04:01 PM | #445 | |
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Yet I still wonder why this thread is in CT |
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12-30-2010, 04:18 PM | #446 |
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Re: Is it wrong to be gay?
Appearences are in the eye of the beholder here. I'm not going to bother myself with trying to play to other people's biases just to try and make the point get through. It's too much damn work, it feels dirty, and I don't even get paid for it.
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12-30-2010, 04:47 PM | #447 |
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Re: Is it wrong to be gay?
You'll bother to weight and bias your word choice and tone to communicate contempt and disregard for another's opinions. That seems like more work than just stating your response clearly and concisely.
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12-30-2010, 05:10 PM | #448 |
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Re: Is it wrong to be gay?
It would be if I didn't have more practice at it. Also, I was clear and concise, just catty at the same time. Of course, it doesn't help that the subject of discussion is PEOPLE. The discussion is literally "Are gay people's experiences valid?" Do you not see how the mere nature of the discussion already puts it way over the line in terms of unbiased discourse and turns it into a war? If I'm not allowed to self-define because another person uncritically privileges their perspective and then couples it with rejection, then I am inclined to undermine their sense of privilege in any way I can. At any rate I am not the aggressor, even if the actual aggressor is often ignorant of their status as aggressor.
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12-30-2010, 05:20 PM | #449 |
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Re: Is it wrong to be gay?
Subjective experiences really aren't fair game for a discussion which demands "proof". If I was fond of stabbing people, and they were not so fond, would it be fair of me to ask them to "prove" that they experienced pain as a direct result of my actions? How would they even do this? How does one prove the validity of any personal experience when someone elects to question it?
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01-2-2011, 04:07 PM | #450 |
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Re: Is it wrong to be gay?
also clearly in the modern world natural selection takes place because we have such a difficult time with our environments (which we built ourselves in order to not have to deal with the environment) and our only goals in life are to procreate[/quote]
From a Darwinian perspective, it is naturally wrong to be gay. ("our only goals in life are to procreate") Is it moral to cause harm to yourself? Is it moral to cause harm to others? If both of these are seen to be immoral, than I feel certain aspects of homosexuality are immoral. [Mod Edit: removed very inappropriate remark] At the same time, nobody should be denied the ability to follow their emotions. Who are we to keep people from loving each other? I don't think it is wrong to be gay, but I do feel that certain "gay acts" are wrong. Last edited by devonin; 01-2-2011 at 04:34 PM.. |
01-2-2011, 04:17 PM | #451 |
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Re: Is it wrong to be gay?
If God exists, then it's wrong. If God doesn't exist, then it's not.
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01-2-2011, 04:34 PM | #452 |
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Re: Is it wrong to be gay?
You'd have to prove a lot more than just existance for God, to use that to conclude that homosexuality was wrong.
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01-2-2011, 05:01 PM | #453 |
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You're right, but if God exists, can we prove Him wrong (he believes being gay is "wrong," right?)?
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01-2-2011, 05:05 PM | #454 |
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Re: Is it wrong to be gay?
Prove God exists. <-- May never truly happen.
Translate the bible to ONE universal translation. <-- This will never happen. Life is an opinion. It's different for everyone.
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01-2-2011, 06:27 PM | #455 | ||
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Good point, never thought of that actually. To be honest, I never thought of who actually did write the bible. Very nice point, respect given.
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01-3-2011, 04:43 PM | #457 |
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Re: Is it wrong to be gay?
Just hypothetically:
It is a pretty big assumption, but (and this is just an opinion) if you could prove or disprove the existence of a specific God you could probably extrapolate to figure out whether or not the Bible was the writing of God channeled through humans.
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01-3-2011, 05:37 PM | #458 | |
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01-9-2011, 09:23 AM | #459 | |
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Being gay is not a choice. It is part of who you are, and should not be viewed as right or wrong. This thread is a mockery. What's next? "Is being black wrong?" p.s. - Cenright might want to read the fallacies sticky. |
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01-9-2011, 10:28 AM | #460 |
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Re: Is it wrong to be gay?
You'll notice that the OP wasn't suggesting it was wrong to be gay or even that there was any basis to assume that being gay was wrong.
The actual opening statement of the thread was "I'm gay, and I simply don't understand where the people who have a problem with that are coming from, please, explain to me why you think being gay is wrong" ie. The dissenting opinions you're taking as a horrible affront were specifically asked for -by- someone who is a part of the group the opinions are directed against. Further, while a great deal of evidence suggests that there is a large genetic componant to homosexuality, that's not actually something that has been -proven- or at least, it's not been proven that 100% of all homosexuals were born that way and have no choice in the matter, and that nobody chooses or develops that way later in life. |
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