Getting a new computer. Need advice.

[MrRubix]

Yes I refer to the Sapphire, sorry.

The 480 is currently the world's fastest single-GPU, but the 5970 is a dual-gpu single-slot card (like the GTX 295) and ultimately edges out. I want to see how the upper-end dual-GPU NVidia card holds. Right now everyone seems to be using Heaven Benchmark to help judge the differences.

[Fast Fingered Fiend]

I've actually been trying to look for a good place to find brand new gtx 295's. But all I get is unavailable links or just ebay stuff (I'd rather not purchase from there), Although I also heard that the 9800gx2 is pretty beast


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Originally Posted by MrRubix

Yes I refer to the Sapphire, sorry.

The 480 is currently the world's fastest single-GPU, but the 5970 is a dual-gpu single-slot card (like the GTX 295) and ultimately edges out. I want to see how the upper-end dual-GPU NVidia card holds. Right now everyone seems to be using Heaven Benchmark to help judge the differences.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LptlSw4ypeY

[MrRubix]

Originally Posted by Fast Fingered Fiend

I've actually been trying to look for a good place to find brand new gtx 295's. But all I get is unavailable links or just ebay stuff (I'd rather not purchase from there), Although I also heard that the 9800gx2 is pretty beast


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LptlSw4ypeY

Dude there's no point in comparing a 295 to a 5970 lmfao. I don't even have to watch this video to know that the 5970 is going to beast it by at least 10 FPS on average. 295 still holds its own, and it will for a long while to come. Crysis is a notoriously poorly-coded game and relies on some pretty inefficient algorithms for the way certain visual effects are drawn. Nevertheless, 295 was an overkill card a year ago, and so it's going to take a while until it leaves something to be desired.

[MrGiggles]

Originally Posted by MrRubix

I hear ATI is actually beating out NVidia this time around

The 5970 apparently rapes the face off of the GTX 480.

Unfortunately I can't just take out my 295 and replace it -- I think, even with my fulltower case, it'd be too cramped to get a longer card (I'd need like another inch or two to make it even fit in my fulltower case). Not only that, but since the shippers botched up the computer when I came to NY, the PCI slot lever was snapped off. It'd be hard to even *remove* the card.

Indeed, brand superiority tends to follow cycles, and right now it's ATI's time to shine while Fermi sets computers on fire.

[MrGiggles]

Originally Posted by MrRubix

ohi mass i didn't know you were still alive
scraping by as a web designer must be hard work

No man that's gazeebo.

Unless they're the same person it's hard to track alts sometimes.

I still think he's right though. That's waaaaay too much dough to blow on a build at one time

[MrRubix]

scientific is gazeebo. gazeebo is mass. scientific is therefore mass. all are equal wastes of space.

Also, it really depends on what you're building for, Giggles. You can always save money by buying a medium machine at a reasonable price to be able to play what you want, but then you're constantly needing to upgrade to shift with the times (and if you're like me, you want to ensure you can max every setting you can). If you can afford to splurge and have a rig that'll hold its own for a long time before you need to consider upgrading anything, then the premium is well worth the utility.

I make a very decent salary now and so 2-3k isn't a lot to spend on a machine that I use frequently.

[scientific]

just because you have enough money to do it doesnt justify spending way too much money.

especially when you could build an equally powerful computer for less

[Izzy]

I doubt you could build an equally powerful computer for less. There wouldn't be any point in buying a piece of hardware that has the same performance as another but costs twice as much. I don't think that is what they are doing here.

I would agree that is a waste of money if you rarely ever use your computer to its potential. You don't need a 400 dollar graphics card to browse the web and play ffr.

I used to use my expensive laptop around campus and then I realized I just wanted something to browse the internet so I bought a netbook and I have loved it ever since.

[Fast Fingered Fiend]

Originally Posted by DAD1

Droid Does no not really

[MrRubix]

Originally Posted by scientific

just because you have enough money to do it doesnt justify spending way too much money.

especially when you could build an equally powerful computer for less

yeah ok sport good luck with that

considering everything I put in my machine @ $2000 or so (including monitor, great sound system, etc), it was very reasonably priced. it's by no means "spending way too much money." the standard of equipment here is constant. the question is how much less you could buy said items for and whether or not the parts *themselves* are overkill.

in this case, even if you could somehow find the parts for less, you are likely buying them from supersketch third-party vendors/off craigslist/ebay/etc and you lose a fair bit of guarantee. Most of my parts were from Newegg, with cheaper equivalents purchased from other reliable vendors that happened to have lower overall costs. A ripoff might be buying a $250 dollar computer for $800. In this case, at that point in time, I think you would have had an extremely challenging time keeping that entire system under $2k.

[MrRubix]

Originally Posted by Fast Fingered Fiend

Droid Does no not really

if i had hal9000 in my droid i would **** bricks
PS: I've owned a Nexus One for a while and it's served me pretty well

[ninjaKIWI]

Originally Posted by MrRubix

I hear ATI is actually beating out nVidia this time around

The 5970 apparently rapes the face off of the GTX 480.

Well, that's what you get for a 200-300 dollar premium over the 480. Personally I've always had problems with AA and such with AMD's cards, I'm sticking with nVidia.

In my opinion dual GPU cards are just silly anyways, until PCI-E 3.0 makes its debut.

[MrRubix]

I'm personally holding off until my current system is unable to run games I want at max settings with smooth performance.

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by MrRubix

I'm personally holding off until my current system is unable to run games I want at max settings with smooth performance.

Which will be like 5-7 years.

I still have a quad core 2.5 ghz and a 9800 gtx and am having no issues. Will probably update within a year or two.

[Fast Fingered Fiend]

k, so I'm thinking of getting this:

i7 950
asus sabertooth mobo
ati 5970
corsair 750w psu
wd 1tb
12gb ddr3 1333
coolermaster hafx
corsair h50


1741.33

any objections? (except price and buying an expensive computer h0h0h0)

[xxxim_a_noobxxx]

eh i piad 800$ for my quad core 8 gigs ram 1 tb ati 5450 works great with sc2 wow cod on all high settings

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by Fast Fingered Fiend

k, so I'm thinking of getting this:

i7 950
asus sabertooth mobo
ati 5970
corsair 750w psu
wd 1tb
12gb ddr3 1333
coolermaster hafx
corsair h50


1741.33

any objections? (except price and buying an expensive computer h0h0h0)

I prefer two 500 GB HD's instead of 1 terabyte HD.

[Fast Fingered Fiend]

Can you elaborate?

[ninjaKIWI]

Originally Posted by Fast Fingered Fiend

k, so I'm thinking of getting this:

i7 950
asus sabertooth mobo
ati 5970
corsair 750w psu
wd 1tb
12gb ddr3 1333
coolermaster hafx
corsair h50


1741.33

any objections? (except price and buying an expensive computer h0h0h0)

The only difference between the 920 and the 950 is that the 950 is at 3.06ghz stock. Save money and buy a 920 and overclock it to 4.0ghz. I'd also suggest getting faster RAM but less capacity, I'd much rather have 6GB of 1600mhz than 12gb of 1333mhz.

Very nice motherboard choice, but I think that for a 1366 setup I would rather go with the MSi Big Bang, since everything seems to be moving towards PCI-E.

I want to say something about your 5970 but I feel like everyone will just yell at me about how it's future proofing and etc.

[MrGiggles]

It's soooooo much cheaper to build a middling computer and purchase 1 new component per year. More effort? Sure. But you save several grand. Seriously what is wrong with you people I always see these stupid builds and everyone laughs at it.

I guess Rubix's is okay since his situation apparently involves excess dough and insurmountable laziness but godDAMN

Is this for gaming? Go i5. It's all you need, i9's will never max out.