MrRubix's Riddle/Problem Thread: Rebirth - Page 4

MrRubix · 11-15-2008, 09:03 PM

Alright, it's processing now. I'll add a link to the main post the instant it goes live.

Alright, it's up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7tdXQmYXrw

**Meatyguy** · 11-15-2008, 09:14 PM

Lol here are the tags: "MrRubix Rubix Gaus Gausmaster FFR Flash Revolution riddle fire pole cup gasoline epic fail problem

How DO you do it?"

xinpig · 11-15-2008, 09:19 PM

I fail all over the floor

PWNED

Quigly · 11-15-2008, 09:33 PM

Only one person has tried the math one lol.

ieatyourlvllol · 11-15-2008, 09:34 PM

I don't feel like going out to buy a 10-foot pole to test this theory out, but I would conjecture that as long as there is an applied upward force equal to the weight of the cup and its contents, then it'll stay pressed against the ceiling. To model the situation, you can use the equation a^2 + o^2 = 100, where 'a' is the horizontal distance you've covered [approximately - the actual position is that of your lower hand (see below)], and 'o' is the vertical distance of the pole's bottom end from the ceiling. Facing away from the window, if you have one hand pushing lightly downward on the pole near its base and the other farther outward pushing forcefully upward, the distance 'h' that you would have to raise your lower arm would then be described by 10 - o, or 10 - root(100-a^2). Your 'a' value therefore must be less than 10. Let's assume a safe value of 6, which would leave you a plausible six feet to cover. In this case, 'o' would equal 8, so 'h' would equal 2 feet, which, with a reasonable arm length of 3 feet, falls within physical capabilities (after having covered 6 horizontal feet, you would be holding the pole end about a foot above your head, giving you just enough reach with the other arm to create the makeshift lever system). As you approached the limit of your partial pole revolution, you would simply whip around, sprint forward, and dive out the window. The 15 feet that the cup must traverse should allow you sufficient time for escape. You'd get out with burnt feet, though. -_-

gausmaster · 11-15-2008, 09:40 PM

I had to restart. That was too much fail for my computer to handle. & ieat I like your solution, but you'ld be walking right through the fire.

Quigly · 11-15-2008, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gausmaster

I had to restart. That was too much fail for my computer to handle. & ieat I like your solution, but you'ld be walking right through the fire.

It's better than being incinerated in an inferno.

xinpig · 11-15-2008, 09:58 PM

A new viagra virus is going round the Internet. It doesn't affect your hard drive, but you can't minimize anything for hours. . .

xD sorry had to post that.

gausmaster · 11-15-2008, 10:03 PM

I'm truely stumped. But you do have to admit with skill & luck you could get that cup out of the window...
I give.

Tater Tot · 11-15-2008, 10:08 PM

Why not just pull out my cell phone and dial 911? It only takes one hand to dial...

If that's not an option, you could always try screaming for help, if there's a window, that means it leads outside, and unless you're in the middle of nowhere, somebody's bound to hear you.

And if that's not an option either, I guess I would dump the cup against the wall on the side of the room opposite the window, and crawl under the flames to the window, (as I'm assuming they're not touching the floor or else the whole place would have been on fire already). And if the flames are indeed on the floor, I'd pole vault to the window.

Or I'd just yell "Cut!!" and get my stunt double.

Quigly · 11-15-2008, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xinpig

A new viagra virus is going round the Internet. It doesn't affect your hard drive, but you can't minimize anything for hours. . .

xD sorry had to post that.

Now I can use my new viagra-intensified penis to balance the cup against the ceiling as I use the pole to pole vault out the window.

Oh and if you made a thread with this and it got locked, don't post the same thing in another thread.

trumaestro · 11-15-2008, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quigly

Now I can use my new viagra-intensified penis to pole vault out the window.

Yea...

I suppose you could maybe pour the gas down the tube (assuming the pole is actually a tube) with your hand on the bottom end and then run out through the window with it. It's just a guess.

Tater Tot · 11-15-2008, 10:32 PM

So Rubix, what did you think of my answers?

**cry4eternity** · 11-15-2008, 11:34 PM

So how is it supposed to be done?

Here's my thoughts:

The ceiling is 15 feet, and the person is 6 feet tall. This means the bottom of the pole is about chest height. I would adjust my grip on the pole so that both hands are on the same side of the pole, and then pull it straight down so that the cup is not touching the top, and while looking up at the cup, just slam the pole down on the ground. The mug and the stuff inside should both fall down very uniformly if I did this right. I am also still looking up and concentrating on the falling cup, so I can catch it quite easily. I can assume that any drops that may spill from the cup will fall very near to the area that I am standing. I also assume that I am not close enough to the flames so as to be in danger of burning, so the small spillage that may occur seems negligible. Now, for the same reason I can put the mug on the floor, and maybe even pick up the pole and prop it against the window. I realize the pole may have been in the flames, and I guess I'm just assuming it is a metal pole (it didn't melt as if it were plastic). I can climb on the pole to avoid the flames if necessary to reach the window.

Seems like a pretty reasonable solution to me.

dynamite1 · 11-15-2008, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRubix

Be as realistic as possible. Answer this question as if you were *actually* in this situation. What would you *actually* do? Don't propose something unless it is something you would *actually* execute.

You're in a building, and there is nobody around to help or hear you. By a very unfortunate turn of events, you find yourself in the middle of a room surrounded by a series of incredibly packed, small, controlled flames. You're holding a pole (say an inch in diameter), which is currently pressed up against a cup (just an ordinary mug, let's say) of gasoline, which is pressed up against the ceiling. The cup is filled up until a sixteenth of an inch below the very top. If *any* gasoline touches any of the flames around you, it will cause a massive chain explosion. The controlled fires will not die out naturally. There is an open window about 12 feet to your left, and there will never be any wind coming in. You are 6 feet tall with average proportions. The ceiling is 15 feet high. The pole is 10 feet long. You may make any other reasonable assumptions. How do you avoid getting killed by this explosion (you can't simply stay there forever... you will eventually faint/pass out/lose strength/etc)?

Why would anyone be pressing a cup filled with gasoline to the ceiling with a pole in the first place?

MrRubix · 11-16-2008, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cry4eternity

So how is it supposed to be done?

Here's my thoughts:

The ceiling is 15 feet, and the person is 6 feet tall. This means the bottom of the pole is about chest height. I would adjust my grip on the pole so that both hands are on the same side of the pole, and then pull it straight down so that the cup is not touching the top, and while looking up at the cup, just slam the pole down on the ground. The mug and the stuff inside should both fall down very uniformly if I did this right. I am also still looking up and concentrating on the falling cup, so I can catch it quite easily. I can assume that any drops that may spill from the cup will fall very near to the area that I am standing. I also assume that I am not close enough to the flames so as to be in danger of burning, so the small spillage that may occur seems negligible. Now, for the same reason I can put the mug on the floor, and maybe even pick up the pole and prop it against the window. I realize the pole may have been in the flames, and I guess I'm just assuming it is a metal pole (it didn't melt as if it were plastic). I can climb on the pole to avoid the flames if necessary to reach the window.

Seems like a pretty reasonable solution to me.

This is more or less what I did to get the cup (with one slight difference to get around the spillage issue), but your escape plan is not one I'd want to pursue, lol.

**awein999** · 11-16-2008, 12:15 AM

hopefully you catch it...

**rushyrulz** · 11-16-2008, 12:53 AM

letseeee... I would press really hard on the bottom of the cup with the pole so it goes through the bottom and hits the ceiling, no spillage since I'm pushing up. This could probably be done, seeing as you got like 500 fluid ounces of adrenaline pumping in a near-death situation. There would be a bit of leakage from the new hole, lubricating the pole with a fresh coat of gas and lessening the amount in the cup. Since the pole is now lubricated, the cup would slide down within my reach, I would bring the cup down to the ground, take the pole out of the hole in the cup upwards (the cup is now on the ground so there is no more leakage.), then assuming that my safe area is more than 10 feet, I would lay the pole down and wait for it to dry, if it's not 10 feet, wave it in the air to dry. Then I would pick the pole up once it was dry again and wave out the fire in a pathway to the window and make an orderly exit.

Thing that might be in question here: The reaction to the pressing up on the mug. Would the whole bottom cave, or would the sides crack? Nothing could cause too much of a mess that would exit my safe area.

EDIT: Math problem... ewww calculus...

rzr · 11-16-2008, 02:18 AM

What's the video comprised of? Mobile web and dial up... no videos. Can someone tell me?

ieatyourlvllol · 11-16-2008, 02:42 AM

Hmm...the pole vault method would probably be the most suitable. Additionally, to reduce the possibility of uncontrolled spillage upon catching the cup, you could try fashioning a net out of your clothing. Had there been an additional restriction like "you're not allowed to put the cup on the ground," I would have suggested that if your window was particularly big, you could make further use of your garments by wrapping them around the cup to temporarily inhibit seepage on a subsequent throw (out the window). Otherwise (if the risk was too high), you would use a similar process, except that the bundle would be tied around the pole with the cup base perpendicular. In this case, the gasoline would first contact the fabric at roughly halfway through your vault, but if possible (assuming average absorption and permeability), leakage would take longer than what would be required for you to finish your escape.

11-15-2008, 09:03 PM	#61
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: MrRubix's Riddle/Problem Thread: Rebirth Alright, it's processing now. I'll add a link to the main post the instant it goes live. Alright, it's up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7tdXQmYXrw Last edited by MrRubix; 11-15-2008 at 09:07 PM..

11-15-2008, 09:14 PM	#62
Meatyguy FFR Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 31 Posts: 758	Re: MrRubix's Riddle/Problem Thread: Rebirth Lol here are the tags: "MrRubix Rubix Gaus Gausmaster FFR Flash Revolution riddle fire pole cup gasoline epic fail problem How DO you do it?" Last edited by Meatyguy; 11-15-2008 at 09:17 PM..

11-15-2008, 09:19 PM	#63
xinpig FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: At my Computer Age: 34 Posts: 1,072	Re: MrRubix's Riddle/Problem Thread: Rebirth I fail all over the floor PWNED __________________ PSEUDO SKILL TOKENS! FC'd Blooddrunk with AVMISSING!

11-15-2008, 09:33 PM	#64
Quigly nah Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nah Age: 30 Posts: 3,506	Re: MrRubix's Riddle/Problem Thread: Rebirth Only one person has tried the math one lol. __________________ nah

11-15-2008, 09:34 PM	#65
ieatyourlvllol FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: it's a mystery oooo Posts: 3,221	Re: MrRubix's Riddle/Problem Thread: Rebirth I don't feel like going out to buy a 10-foot pole to test this theory out, but I would conjecture that as long as there is an applied upward force equal to the weight of the cup and its contents, then it'll stay pressed against the ceiling. To model the situation, you can use the equation a^2 + o^2 = 100, where 'a' is the horizontal distance you've covered [approximately - the actual position is that of your lower hand (see below)], and 'o' is the vertical distance of the pole's bottom end from the ceiling. Facing away from the window, if you have one hand pushing lightly downward on the pole near its base and the other farther outward pushing forcefully upward, the distance 'h' that you would have to raise your lower arm would then be described by 10 - o, or 10 - root(100-a^2). Your 'a' value therefore must be less than 10. Let's assume a safe value of 6, which would leave you a plausible six feet to cover. In this case, 'o' would equal 8, so 'h' would equal 2 feet, which, with a reasonable arm length of 3 feet, falls within physical capabilities (after having covered 6 horizontal feet, you would be holding the pole end about a foot above your head, giving you just enough reach with the other arm to create the makeshift lever system). As you approached the limit of your partial pole revolution, you would simply whip around, sprint forward, and dive out the window. The 15 feet that the cup must traverse should allow you sufficient time for escape. You'd get out with burnt feet, though. -_-

11-15-2008, 09:58 PM	#68
xinpig FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: At my Computer Age: 34 Posts: 1,072	Re: MrRubix's Riddle/Problem Thread: Rebirth A new viagra virus is going round the Internet. It doesn't affect your hard drive, but you can't minimize anything for hours. . . xD sorry had to post that. __________________ PSEUDO SKILL TOKENS! FC'd Blooddrunk with AVMISSING!

11-15-2008, 10:08 PM	#70
Tater Tot FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Fountain Of Youth, Florida Posts: 582	Re: MrRubix's Riddle/Problem Thread: Rebirth Why not just pull out my cell phone and dial 911? It only takes one hand to dial... If that's not an option, you could always try screaming for help, if there's a window, that means it leads outside, and unless you're in the middle of nowhere, somebody's bound to hear you. And if that's not an option either, I guess I would dump the cup against the wall on the side of the room opposite the window, and crawl under the flames to the window, (as I'm assuming they're not touching the floor or else the whole place would have been on fire already). And if the flames are indeed on the floor, I'd pole vault to the window. Or I'd just yell "Cut!!" and get my stunt double. __________________ All images are links, click one and have fun!

11-15-2008, 10:32 PM	#73
Tater Tot FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Fountain Of Youth, Florida Posts: 582	Re: MrRubix's Riddle/Problem Thread: Rebirth So Rubix, what did you think of my answers? __________________ All images are links, click one and have fun!

11-15-2008, 11:34 PM	#74
cry4eternity ~ added for cuteness Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Age: 31 Posts: 979	Re: MrRubix's Riddle/Problem Thread: Rebirth So how is it supposed to be done? Here's my thoughts: The ceiling is 15 feet, and the person is 6 feet tall. This means the bottom of the pole is about chest height. I would adjust my grip on the pole so that both hands are on the same side of the pole, and then pull it straight down so that the cup is not touching the top, and while looking up at the cup, just slam the pole down on the ground. The mug and the stuff inside should both fall down very uniformly if I did this right. I am also still looking up and concentrating on the falling cup, so I can catch it quite easily. I can assume that any drops that may spill from the cup will fall very near to the area that I am standing. I also assume that I am not close enough to the flames so as to be in danger of burning, so the small spillage that may occur seems negligible. Now, for the same reason I can put the mug on the floor, and maybe even pick up the pole and prop it against the window. I realize the pole may have been in the flames, and I guess I'm just assuming it is a metal pole (it didn't melt as if it were plastic). I can climb on the pole to avoid the flames if necessary to reach the window. Seems like a pretty reasonable solution to me. __________________ I'm retired

11-16-2008, 12:53 AM	#78
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 31 Posts: 12,981	Re: MrRubix's Riddle/Problem Thread: Rebirth letseeee... I would press really hard on the bottom of the cup with the pole so it goes through the bottom and hits the ceiling, no spillage since I'm pushing up. This could probably be done, seeing as you got like 500 fluid ounces of adrenaline pumping in a near-death situation. There would be a bit of leakage from the new hole, lubricating the pole with a fresh coat of gas and lessening the amount in the cup. Since the pole is now lubricated, the cup would slide down within my reach, I would bring the cup down to the ground, take the pole out of the hole in the cup upwards (the cup is now on the ground so there is no more leakage.), then assuming that my safe area is more than 10 feet, I would lay the pole down and wait for it to dry, if it's not 10 feet, wave it in the air to dry. Then I would pick the pole up once it was dry again and wave out the fire in a pathway to the window and make an orderly exit. Thing that might be in question here: The reaction to the pressing up on the mug. Would the whole bottom cave, or would the sides crack? Nothing could cause too much of a mess that would exit my safe area. EDIT: Math problem... ewww calculus... __________________ Last edited by rushyrulz; 11-16-2008 at 01:00 AM..

11-16-2008, 02:42 AM	#80
ieatyourlvllol FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: it's a mystery oooo Posts: 3,221	Re: MrRubix's Riddle/Problem Thread: Rebirth Hmm...the pole vault method would probably be the most suitable. Additionally, to reduce the possibility of uncontrolled spillage upon catching the cup, you could try fashioning a net out of your clothing. Had there been an additional restriction like "you're not allowed to put the cup on the ground," I would have suggested that if your window was particularly big, you could make further use of your garments by wrapping them around the cup to temporarily inhibit seepage on a subsequent throw (out the window). Otherwise (if the risk was too high), you would use a similar process, except that the bundle would be tied around the pole with the cup base perpendicular. In this case, the gasoline would first contact the fabric at roughly halfway through your vault, but if possible (assuming average absorption and permeability), leakage would take longer than what would be required for you to finish your escape.

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