Neomax: red syndrome?

**awein999** · 08-29-2008, 08:06 PM

ok so I decided to take a break from playing random songs level 9 and up and decided to AAA some below that level. So yeah, Neomax has rainbow color but it changes to all red near the end of the song? Can anyone tell me what's with that?

Orange Dude · 08-29-2008, 08:09 PM

I'd imagine the BPM is doubled or quadrupled towards the end so that the eighths and sixteenth notes are red.

**Netjet!** · 08-29-2008, 08:13 PM

I think the above post is correct.

I believe the below post is a lie.

Anatoli · 08-29-2008, 08:16 PM

Can't be. The same thing happens in Domani.

Explain that, Einstein.

(PS Netjet lolololol)

**foilman8805** · 08-29-2008, 08:17 PM

Domani is just ****ed up...pink background and all.

I do think that there is a very high BPM change towards the end of NeoMAX like Orange Dude said. (Seems like it, at least.)

**awein999** · 08-29-2008, 08:17 PM

lol that's really weird, it seems so random

**SnS** · 08-29-2008, 08:19 PM

It makes perfect sense.
I don't know why, though. D:

buizel8888 · 08-29-2008, 08:19 PM

It is pretty random. There is no point in it being there

Xx{Midday}xX · 08-29-2008, 08:20 PM

A unique representation of climax theory.

Anatoli · 08-29-2008, 08:20 PM

Well why would Jello do that?

NeoMAX's ending isn't THAT fast...

**Plan_Bsk81127** · 08-29-2008, 08:29 PM

lol, I just now AAA'd this,

But those red notes are what got me messed up. You just need to really focus on what arrows they really are, then it is easy.

bluguerrilla · 08-29-2008, 08:31 PM

Jello didn't put a single BPM change in his file.

It's an artifact of an older converter kind of like Tera said.

**foilman8805** · 08-29-2008, 08:32 PM

Jello must've lost his colored pencils by the end of the song then.

I AAA'd it awhile back though, so I really don't care that much, lol.

Interesting fact: 121 AAAs out of 63,901 individual players.

About .19% of the people who have ever played the song AAA'd it. I think it indicates how much of a bitch that red note syndrome section is.

[TeRa] · 08-29-2008, 08:33 PM

In the old times when a 12th/24th/32nd or something showed up all the notes would become screwed up after that, just like how GGC used to be until tass fixed it.

Torinouta and coat czech were the first 2 files I believe to be released after they fixed this glitch for good.

There are certain files in the game that when a 12th,24th, etc. would come up they would change the bpm so the notes would stay on the 4th/8th/16th frames, avoiding having this glitch.

A good example is end night, as you can see in this SS, the first set in the box, is a 32nd, sped up to double BPM to avoid having this red note glitch show up.

**awein999** · 08-29-2008, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foilman8805

Jello must've lost his colored pencils by the end of the song then.

I AAA'd it awhile back though, so I really don't care that much, lol.

Interesting fact: 121 AAAs out of 63,901 individual players.

About .19% of the people who have ever played the song AAA'd it. I think it indicates how much of a bitch that red note syndrome section is.

I think it's mainly because of avmisses at the end.

**foilman8805** · 08-29-2008, 08:43 PM

For awhile that was a pretty big problem because those jacks are 3 framers. Still, if you had mastered the ability to hit early, you could get all Perfects.

The song has been playable without avmisses for about 8 months now and it still has only 121 AAAs. That's really not that many.

[TeRa] · 08-29-2008, 08:43 PM

There was 3 framers iirc >_>

**foilman8805** · 08-29-2008, 08:44 PM

Oh, TeRa is right. You can still get all perfects on 3s. Edited my post.

Thanks for that.

Anatoli · 08-29-2008, 08:45 PM

Yeah I think they were. 170 bpm 12th jacks afaik...

**Tasselfoot** · 08-29-2008, 08:55 PM

actually, the bpm doesn't change at all... other than that, you're right Tera. what happened is that we only had 3 colors of noteskins at the time, red-blue-yellow. anything that was 12th, 24th, 32nd, 48th, etc would be shifted to another color.

it was in balloon fever too, as well as a bunch of other songs. many have been fixed by myself or shash... a few still haven't. such as epic, domani, rat v2, neomax, visions.

08-29-2008, 08:09 PM	#2
Orange Dude FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Oregon Age: 32 Posts: 168	Re: Neomax: red syndrome? I'd imagine the BPM is doubled or quadrupled towards the end so that the eighths and sixteenth notes are red.

08-29-2008, 08:13 PM	#3
Netjet! Sic itur ad astra Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ottawa, Canada Age: 30 Posts: 4,700	Re: Neomax: red syndrome? I think the above post is correct. I believe the below post is a lie. __________________ RIP Steve Van Ness <3

08-29-2008, 08:16 PM	#4
Anatoli FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 11	Re: Neomax: red syndrome? Can't be. The same thing happens in Domani. Explain that, Einstein. (PS Netjet lolololol)

08-29-2008, 08:17 PM	#5
foilman8805 smoke wheat hail satin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA baby Age: 36 Posts: 5,704	Re: Neomax: red syndrome? Domani is just ***ed up...pink background and all. I do think that there is a very high BPM change towards the end of NeoMAX like Orange Dude said. (Seems like it, at least.) Last edited by foilman8805; 08-29-2008 at 08:56 PM..*

08-29-2008, 08:19 PM	#7
SnS FFR Veteran Join Date: Jun 2007 Age: 34 Posts: 680	Re: Neomax: red syndrome? It makes perfect sense. I don't know why, though. D:

08-29-2008, 08:19 PM	#8
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08-29-2008, 08:20 PM	#9
Xx{Midday}xX FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: My own world. Miserable. Disgusting. Appalling. Pessimistic. Horrific. Terrible. Posts: 3,518	Re: Neomax: red syndrome? A unique representation of climax theory. __________________ Any *FFR song title* discrepancies? List them here. Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free *Accumulating all playstyles here!* つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`)

08-29-2008, 08:29 PM	#11
Plan_Bsk81127 snooches Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 32 Posts: 6,420	Re: Neomax: red syndrome? lol, I just now AAA'd this, But those red notes are what got me messed up. You just need to really focus on what arrows they really are, then it is easy.

08-29-2008, 08:31 PM	#12
bluguerrilla FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 41 Posts: 3,966	Re: Neomax: red syndrome? Jello didn't put a single BPM change in his file. It's an artifact of an older converter kind of like Tera said. __________________

08-29-2008, 08:32 PM	#13
foilman8805 smoke wheat hail satin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA baby Age: 36 Posts: 5,704	Re: Neomax: red syndrome? Jello must've lost his colored pencils by the end of the song then. I AAA'd it awhile back though, so I really don't care that much, lol. Interesting fact: 121 AAAs out of 63,901 individual players. About .19% of the people who have ever played the song AAA'd it. I think it indicates how much of a bitch that red note syndrome section is. Last edited by foilman8805; 08-29-2008 at 08:34 PM..

08-29-2008, 08:33 PM	#14
[TeRa] FFR Player Join Date: May 2007 Age: 33 Posts: 9,922	Re: Neomax: red syndrome? In the old times when a 12th/24th/32nd or something showed up all the notes would become screwed up after that, just like how GGC used to be until tass fixed it. Torinouta and coat czech were the first 2 files I believe to be released after they fixed this glitch for good. There are certain files in the game that when a 12th,24th, etc. would come up they would change the bpm so the notes would stay on the 4th/8th/16th frames, avoiding having this glitch. A good example is end night, as you can see in this SS, the first set in the box, is a 32nd, sped up to double BPM to avoid having this red note glitch show up. Last edited by [TeRa]; 08-29-2008 at 08:35 PM..

08-29-2008, 08:43 PM	#16
foilman8805 smoke wheat hail satin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA baby Age: 36 Posts: 5,704	Re: Neomax: red syndrome? For awhile that was a pretty big problem because those jacks are 3 framers. Still, if you had mastered the ability to hit early, you could get all Perfects. The song has been playable without avmisses for about 8 months now and it still has only 121 AAAs. That's really not that many. Last edited by foilman8805; 08-29-2008 at 08:45 PM..

08-29-2008, 08:43 PM	#17
[TeRa] FFR Player Join Date: May 2007 Age: 33 Posts: 9,922	Re: Neomax: red syndrome? There was 3 framers iirc >_>

08-29-2008, 08:44 PM	#18
foilman8805 smoke wheat hail satin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA baby Age: 36 Posts: 5,704	Re: Neomax: red syndrome? Oh, TeRa is right. You can still get all perfects on 3s. Edited my post. Thanks for that.

08-29-2008, 08:55 PM	#20
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Neomax: red syndrome? actually, the bpm doesn't change at all... other than that, you're right Tera. what happened is that we only had 3 colors of noteskins at the time, red-blue-yellow. anything that was 12th, 24th, 32nd, 48th, etc would be shifted to another color. it was in balloon fever too, as well as a bunch of other songs. many have been fixed by myself or shash... a few still haven't. such as epic, domani, rat v2, neomax, visions. __________________ RIP

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