does anyone still use the half screen method? - Page 2

**ruferddude** · 08-13-2008, 07:04 AM

I play 1.0x and screencut still.

**s0ulst0n3** · 08-13-2008, 07:25 AM

I play 2x and cut so it goes halfway through the combo. :3

**bballa48** · 08-13-2008, 07:57 AM

I still screen cut and always will. I just can't play with speed mods..

lxDestinyxl · 08-13-2008, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by foilman8805

Tasselfoot is the probably the best known screen cutter I can think of. Jerry DB also screen cuts from what I know.

Both of them are pretty damn good at FFR too.

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Originally Posted by MrMagic5239

Tass is the best screen cutter right now

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Originally Posted by who_cares973

tass is the only person that i know about

i should start screen cutting >.>

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Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

there are plenty of people who CAN play 1x screencut and are better than me at it. just that nobody plays with it as their main style anymore. except for me.

>=[

Everyone forgot about me.

I cutscreen all the way to get all my FC's, AAA's and personal best scores.

>=[

omgitznpv · 08-13-2008, 08:12 AM

thats cause nobody cares about you asians

lxDestinyxl · 08-13-2008, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by omgitznpv

thats cause nobody cares about you asians

3:40 - Loud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUMFRov9kiQ

**Tasselfoot** · 08-13-2008, 08:52 AM

didn't know that Destiny. *shrugs*. and, darkshark hasn't been around for a few months... not sure whether he still plays 1x anymore either.

wwwJ4mmYcouk · 08-13-2008, 09:01 AM

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MrRubix · 08-13-2008, 09:41 AM

I think screencutting is a ridiculous concept, personally. I can only see it being of any use if you find yourself distracted by arrows in your peripheral vision, but I'd consider such information valuable. If I see a trill coming up, I want to be prepared for it.

**Shashakiro** · 08-13-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MrRubix

I think screencutting is a ridiculous concept, personally.

before speed mods it was basically the only way to play at a high level

with speed mods i'd agree that it's fairly useless.

MrRubix · 08-13-2008, 09:51 AM

I still fail to see how omitting information synthesizes a speed mod other than changing the duration of time available to see a given note. It doesn't change spacing, which is primarily where much of the strength of a speed mod is derived.

**Shashakiro** · 08-13-2008, 09:55 AM

The other thing a speed mod does is cause there to be less information on the screen for the eyes/brain to process at once, making reading patterns much easier.

At least that's my theory. I know from personal experience that back before speedmods I couldn't even read CIA Rave without screencut and could AAA easily with, and others had similar experiences, so clearly it helped for some reason.

lxDestinyxl · 08-13-2008, 09:59 AM

I don't just use Cut screen at 1.25x speed mod. I mean, I can easily read up to 1.75x and do pretty well. I've been using the cut-screen method for quite a time now, just like everybody else, but I didn't drop the lot. I kept my cut-screen to good use, but increased the speed-mod slightly.

I don't really care about all the technical aspects of screencutting and vision, but all I know is that I play well with 1.25x cut screen (or 1.5x slightly less cutscreen), and that's all that matters.

sc979 · 08-13-2008, 10:01 AM

Some patterns I still read better on 1x screencut. I could AAA some songs on 1x which I can't get better than 5-0-0-0 on using 1.75x. e.g. Choprite, Rottel-da-Station, The Lunatic Princess-

Also, THIS.

edit: of course, there are also patterns I read better on 1.75x. I can't really PA parts of TGWP using 1x.

lxDestinyxl · 08-13-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sc979

Also, THIS.

You know what?
You're a beast.

**Netjet!** · 08-13-2008, 10:27 AM

You know what?

Asians rock.

8)

**EAGAMES** · 08-13-2008, 11:02 AM

I need to screen-cut on 2x speed. =[

**bballa48** · 08-13-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MrRubix

I think screencutting is a ridiculous concept, personally. I can only see it being of any use if you find yourself distracted by arrows in your peripheral vision, but I'd consider such information valuable. If I see a trill coming up, I want to be prepared for it.

I definitely agree with you in speed mods are definitely preferable to screen cutting any day. However, for those of us like me who just can't get used to the timing with speed mods, screen cutting makes a HUGE difference on 1X speed. I personally think there are two purposes to a speed mod. One, to create more space between the arrows, and two, to have fewer arrows on the screen which doesn't overload your brain. The space between arrows doesn't bother me since I am so used to the spacing on 1X speed... and the screen cut accomplishes the other purpose.

Just as some evidence... here is a score on None Would Escape without screen cutting on 1X. (this is the one FMO I have AAA'd just for comparison)

As you can see... HUGE HUGE difference.

ledwix · 08-14-2008, 01:57 AM

Most people who play SM/FFR a lot can probably read around C1000-1100 or so without failing, and ~600-800 comfortably. Spacing matters, but it's insignificant compared with the reaction time. Less reaction time = automatic reduction of the possible margin of error on any arrow. Up to a point, you could probably have a Cmod high enough that it would be impossible for you to get a good in FFR (or a perfect in SM). Of course, that'd mean that the entire screen was within the marvelous window. But who'd want to specialize that much and learn to read that fast?

**Andiana** · 08-14-2008, 02:44 AM

I'm pretty sure xxxsmittyxxx uses screen cut, at least, when he still was on FFR/playing FFR. :P Though, not sure the speed mods he used.

08-13-2008, 07:25 AM	#22
s0ulst0n3 <SPACE FOR RENT> Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 29 Posts: 2,076	Re: does anyone still use the half screen method? I play 2x and cut so it goes halfway through the combo. :3 __________________ PM me if you want to rent my custom title. :3 ~*Far too many years of chaos and unrest, far too many voices brutally supressed!~*

08-13-2008, 07:57 AM	#23
bballa48 FFR Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,496	Re: does anyone still use the half screen method? I still screen cut and always will. I just can't play with speed mods..

08-13-2008, 08:52 AM	#27
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: does anyone still use the half screen method? didn't know that Destiny. shrugs. and, darkshark hasn't been around for a few months... not sure whether he still plays 1x anymore either. __________________ RIP

08-13-2008, 09:01 AM	#28
wwwJ4mmYcouk FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,031	Re: does anyone still use the half screen method? darkshark Interests: Katie <3, FFR, Coffee, sketchpads, and skittles <3 Location: Antioch, California, United States of America Gender: Male Last Online: August 12, 2008, 9:38 pm __________________ Frank Lee Morris Μήπως πραγματικά πνιγεί;

08-13-2008, 09:41 AM	#29
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: does anyone still use the half screen method? I think screencutting is a ridiculous concept, personally. I can only see it being of any use if you find yourself distracted by arrows in your peripheral vision, but I'd consider such information valuable. If I see a trill coming up, I want to be prepared for it. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

08-13-2008, 09:51 AM	#31
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: does anyone still use the half screen method? I still fail to see how omitting information synthesizes a speed mod other than changing the duration of time available to see a given note. It doesn't change spacing, which is primarily where much of the strength of a speed mod is derived. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

08-13-2008, 09:59 AM	#33
lxDestinyxl FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,247	Re: does anyone still use the half screen method? I don't just use Cut screen at 1.25x speed mod. I mean, I can easily read up to 1.75x and do pretty well. I've been using the cut-screen method for quite a time now, just like everybody else, but I didn't drop the lot. I kept my cut-screen to good use, but increased the speed-mod slightly. I don't really care about all the technical aspects of screencutting and vision, but all I know is that I play well with 1.25x cut screen (or 1.5x slightly less cutscreen), and that's all that matters. __________________

08-13-2008, 10:01 AM	#34
sc979 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,644	Re: does anyone still use the half screen method? Some patterns I still read better on 1x screencut. I could AAA some songs on 1x which I can't get better than 5-0-0-0 on using 1.75x. e.g. Choprite, Rottel-da-Station, The Lunatic Princess- Also, THIS. edit: of course, there are also patterns I read better on 1.75x. I can't really PA parts of TGWP using 1x. __________________ ... Last edited by sc979; 08-13-2008 at 10:10 AM..

08-13-2008, 10:27 AM	#36
Netjet! Sic itur ad astra Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ottawa, Canada Age: 30 Posts: 4,700	Re: does anyone still use the half screen method? You know what? Asians rock. 8) __________________ RIP Steve Van Ness <3

08-14-2008, 01:57 AM	#39
ledwix Giant Pi Operator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: California Age: 33 Posts: 2,878	Re: does anyone still use the half screen method? Most people who play SM/FFR a lot can probably read around C1000-1100 or so without failing, and ~600-800 comfortably. Spacing matters, but it's insignificant compared with the reaction time. Less reaction time = automatic reduction of the possible margin of error on any arrow. Up to a point, you could probably have a Cmod high enough that it would be impossible for you to get a good in FFR (or a perfect in SM). Of course, that'd mean that the entire screen was within the marvelous window. But who'd want to specialize that much and learn to read that fast?

08-14-2008, 02:44 AM	#40
Andiana The Imitation Pedobait Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Your closet Age: 34 Posts: 112	Re: does anyone still use the half screen method? I'm pretty sure xxxsmittyxxx uses screen cut, at least, when he still was on FFR/playing FFR. :P Though, not sure the speed mods he used. __________________ I R NEED SIGNATURE. [ Work in progress ... maybe. ] ^ ACTUAL FFR join date. None of this 'January '04' crap. [: 7 years bby.

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