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View Poll Results: Are you okay with switching noteskins? | |||
Yes, I would like it very much. | 22 | 52.38% | |
I would like to, if given the chance. | 10 | 23.81% | |
Perhaps sometime in the future. | 2 | 4.76% | |
No, I prefer to stick to arrows. | 8 | 19.05% | |
Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll |
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09-13-2009, 01:09 PM | #1 |
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Noteskin Poll
For the FFR 6 key engine, we're thinking about eliminating the arrow noteskin completely, but we are worried about whether or not it will alienate users. As a result, we have made this poll.
Do some of you need to have arrows, or are you fine with switching to something new?
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09-13-2009, 01:10 PM | #2 |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
Arrows have always been my personal favorite for 4 arrow, but for 6 key it makes sense to use bars or whatever.
The diagonal arrows are kind of dumb, so a change probably wouldn't be that bad.
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09-13-2009, 01:19 PM | #3 |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
bars are a better representation but i can only read arrows D:
is there no way to implement a mod that can switch back and forth
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09-13-2009, 01:24 PM | #4 |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
Well as my argument goes, give the option to choose whatever skin you want, as you can with SM. Now I know you want to make this into a whole different style game but the overlying concept is the same. You can do as you wish but at least give the options to the users, not the creators. Simple law of business really. You listen to their suggestions and if enough wish to have it, make it happen. You really can't go wrong by pleasing everyone rather than pleasing a select group of people.
P.S. - For people like me, it's not the directions that dictate why arrows work for me. I play 4-key and 6-key with FFR-Note SOLELY because of the visual accuracy I have placed by associating with only arrowed keys. Plus, FFR-Note helps me because the colors are not so bright and annoying and they don't become a detriment to my eyes. My final conclusion, a.k.a. my opinion, allow for the options to be with the members. And for people like me who enjoy FFR-Note or any note for that matter based on the reasons I mentioned above, make an arrowed noteskin similar but your own style based on whatever style yours may be.
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09-13-2009, 01:35 PM | #5 |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
it's a lot easier to learn a music game if the columns have some sort of separation from each other. if you were to go about that by having GH/PIU/whatever style bars with a different color for each column, that would work too. but I think arrows are good to have, because until people get the muscle memory to play 6 key as opposed to 4 key it's nice to have some sort of easy distinguishing factor so that it's harder to get disoriented.
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09-13-2009, 03:42 PM | #7 |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
yeah we were thinking about doing this as yet another option
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09-13-2009, 02:36 PM | #8 |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
Just make it an option. Eliminating it completely could keep people away from it because they aren't used to reading normal arrow noteskins. It's a nice benefit to have the bars though.
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09-13-2009, 02:50 PM | #9 | |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
Call me dumb, but how is the first option different from the second one?
I think implementing choices for noteskins would be best, but that might make it "too much like SM oh noes"
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09-13-2009, 02:54 PM | #10 |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
Star, I like the idea of individualizing this game apart from most other rhythm games and I would go as far as to endorse the idea. But for the sake of the users, leave the customization options up to them. Where I think you'd show the most individualization in it is how you scored(judged) the way people played the game. If you have a completely unique way of scoring, that alone is enough to set your game off from the rest of the herd.
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09-13-2009, 03:37 PM | #11 |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
Have both options.
But anything above 4key should have barnotes.. (it makes it easier/less frustrating for people.) |
09-13-2009, 03:39 PM | #12 |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
Opinion. It in fact does not make it easier for some people. Dore explained it best.
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09-13-2009, 04:05 PM | #13 |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
I prefer those orbular noteskins. I'm talking about those circle ones.
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09-13-2009, 04:06 PM | #14 | |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
Just make an option for it to make everyone very happy. Newer players have a hard enough time figuring out which note to hit and eliminating any real difference in column shapes just adds to the problem. At least in my experience.
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09-13-2009, 05:39 PM | #15 |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
making an option for whether or not to put the diagonals on the outside is too much work and not worth it.
at the very most arrows are a temporary noteskin. I don't plan on keeping them forever
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09-13-2009, 06:27 PM | #16 |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
I'd rather have something like notebar or orbular instead of arrows for solo.
Diagonals makes it harder for me to read and hit notes on easy songs, as I'm still bad at solo. But, an option to switch between arrows and something like notebar wouldn't hurt to have for those who rather stay with arrows.
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09-13-2009, 06:37 PM | #17 |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
Yes, I would like it very much. (new noteskin)
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09-13-2009, 06:42 PM | #18 |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
I prefer 4 keys hurhurhur durf durf jk
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09-13-2009, 06:44 PM | #19 |
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Re: Noteskin Poll
Having a "switch diagonals" option for 12/56 is a waste of space, time and effort for a single noteskin. Needlessly bulking up the GUI should not be a priority.
Pick one or the other.
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09-13-2009, 06:48 PM | #20 |
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Everyone's being a little closed minded about this. You're trying to individualize something that just cannot be 100% different from its predecessors. I'm not saying make it a priority but DON'T just tell people no for their suggestions. Acting like that only makes you look like Tass who is such a hardass for suggestions no one even bothers anymore. Without suggestions for the game, where will you be? You're trying to force people into uniformity which is a bad thing to do. Make the game fun and make it customizable. You shouldn't have to care HOW people play it. Care THAT they play it. And you'll only get more and more people to play a game if you make it so they can make it their own via customizations.
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