TWG CXVIII: But Who Are Ur Friends, Really???

[j-rodd123]

I don't like eods

[dAnceguy117]

6 votes required to lynch.
Phase ends Tuesday, 7/1 at 8:00 p.m. Server Time or upon lynch.

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DarkManticoreX2 (5) - Vendetta21, yo man im awesome, MrPopadopalis25, DaBackpack, Charu
lurker (2) - DarkManticoreX2, j-rodd123
iluswirl (1) - Charles Claythorne
yo man im awesome (1) - YoshL
YoshL (1) - lurker

YoshL -> DarkManticoreX2
Vendetta21 -> DarkManticoreX2
YoshL -> MrPopadopalis25
lurker -> YoshL
yo man im awesome -> DarkManticoreX2
YoshL -> yo man im awesome
j-rodd123 -> yo man im awesome
Charles Claythorne -> iluswirl
DarkManticoreX2 -> lurker
MrPopadopalis25 -> DarkManticoreX2
j-rodd123 -> lurker
DaBackpack -> DarkManticoreX2
Charu -> DarkManticoreX2

[j-rodd123]

I have no intention to hammer yet, I'm reading manti now. The only thing I didn't really like from him is dropping off for a bit but we all pretty much did that. We have 18 minutes, enough time for a lurker kill?

Is everyone firm on manti?

[j-rodd123]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

Regarding the wolves intentionally playing off of the inactivity, I was thinking last night about dividing everybody into "active day2" and "passive day2" groups. It's pretty unlikely that the wolves would pool themselves into being all active and all passive, so splitting them up might make it easier to pick a potential lynch target from each group. However, I realized that you'd have just as much luck with that method as randomly splitting up everybody into two groups so I decided not to go that route, plus now everybody seems to be pretty active so it's no longer a concern.

I'm thinking that I can move Charles up to my list now. Though I don't agree with every point of his (ie Charu's sporadic posts look like intentional "look at how not suspicious and comfortable I am" statements to me while Charles thinks they make him seem human, and iluswirl's sort of passive defense of himself on day1 made me think of him as human, like a sort of "i'm a human on day1 so if i die at least there's 8 more in reserve, no sense going hard and incriminating myself even more" deal, whereas Charles thought it was suspicious, which I can understand...it was a very neutral defense on swirl's part), it's sound reasoning and not parroting common sentiment.

Charu I'm still going to keep in the pile for the time being. While I agree that jrodd's apology for the Xiz vote was kinda fishy, his case against YMIA only really calls attention to his neutrality, which is characteristic of other players as well (iluswirl and myself, who he both pegged as human), so I dunno. Compared to Charles' big post Charu's was mostly fluff, even if it provided textual evidence (though that's pretty role neutral I guess).

DaBackpack I'm keeping human, especially considering his suspicions of me. Looking at my play objectively, I'm surprised that he's the first person to make a serious case against me. I haven't posted much, and when I do there's little that's original or worthwhile. I've also been actively avoiding conflict as well. In my defense, I've mostly been grasping for straws aside from the Xiz stuff and didn't want to start posting theories and possibilities that I'd debunk on my own twenty minutes later and make myself look bad (see the first paragraph in this post as an example). Day1 I could get away with this due to the larger number of players, but now that the roster is thinning the focus narrows and I have to be more proactive. The tryhard angle I am consciously going for though...I'm trying to treat this game like an English paper as much as a psychological mind-game.

YMIA should change his username to because he's the epitome of that group. He's a wildcard, and his most recent posts have made me even more undecided on his status. Like I said before, I don't think that I'm going to vote for him today unless it's the only alternative to a no lynch or something totally incriminating happens between now and the day's end. Also, in response to V's questioning of why I'm taking this stance, it is partially true that I'm "being scared to vote at all." I don't want to put a halfhearted vote on him, leave the thread, and come back to see him lynched before I have an opportunity to take all the new info posted in the meantime into account. People are withholding their reads on him, and I'm pretty certain it's at least partially because the potential for him being a mason is still pretty high. There's no way that gradiant would post "confirmed" and expect anybody to take it as "confirmed that i saw your post" when yoshl specifically used the word confirm in his question of "can you confirm YMIA's status?" That's why I'm not entirely comfortable voting or vouching for him just yet.

In the end, I'm going to have to settle on voting manti. I get that there's a shitload to analyze here and that real life can get in the way, especially with the Canada Day/July 4th one-two combo, but I can't get V's point about slowing the momentum out of my head. One of the TGB games I played had Mike French only posting once or twice a phase, saying that he was busy with real life stuff, only to turn out to be a wolf that was intentionally staying quiet. Though I highly doubt that Manti would or is doing it to that extent, the potential for him to either play by or play up that angle is what makes him the most compared to everybody else in my books. It's a weak lead, but it's also the strongest out of any I've got.

Is everybody else steadfast in their current votes?

Lol not reading this

[Charu]

I'm pretty firm, for me, lynching lurker here will give me no data, regardless of if he's a wolf or not.

I think there's more info to gain upon Manti's flip however!

[iluswirl]

Ok i've been working a shitton, finally had time to stop and read.

My ymia stuff, as I said, later. I don't like to spill my beans too quick and I think the next set of information could really help.

I am rather split on the manti/lurker controversy as both seem so passive it's ridiculous. DBP has been awful quiet this phase, although i'm not one to speak on that regard.

Yoshl seems to be p quiet too, but idk.

Anyway on to anything important at all...

So I've never played with lurker as far as I know. I don't really know his playstyle and so I can't really say whether this analytical but silent playstyle is normal or not.

Manti is UTR but is nonchalantly defending himself. Unfortunately phase is almost over, I wish i could have been around more to post.

manti

[Charu]

Welp...

[iluswirl]

ps yes i dropped the hammer, i don't think we could have reversed

[iluswirl]

also i have a bad habit of not refreshing right before i post.

[dAnceguy117]

DarkManticoreX2 has been lynched.

I will post the flip in about 5 minutes. You should stop posting now. Any post after the flip would be grounds for a modkill.

[j-rodd123]

Originally Posted by Charu

I'm pretty firm, for me, lynching lurker here will give me no data, regardless of if he's a wolf or not.

I think there's more info to gain upon Manti's flip however!

I suppose so but mantis come back posts have been decent imo, it's probably too late tho unless we no lynch or fail to reach maj. Don't think that's the best so if we can't kill lurker I might vote manti at 8:59 est. Really going back to my day 1 read on him tho and he's reading me the same way he did when we were both villa PRs in an ffya game

[j-rodd123]

Ok gl us

[dAnceguy117]

DarkManticoreX2 has been lynched! He was a Vanilla Human.

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DarkManticoreX2 (6) - Vendetta21, yo man im awesome, MrPopadopalis25, DaBackpack, Charu, iluswirl
lurker (2) - DarkManticoreX2, j-rodd123
iluswirl (1) - Charles Claythorne
yo man im awesome (1) - YoshL
YoshL (1) - lurker

YoshL -> DarkManticoreX2
Vendetta21 -> DarkManticoreX2
YoshL -> MrPopadopalis25
lurker -> YoshL
yo man im awesome -> DarkManticoreX2
YoshL -> yo man im awesome
j-rodd123 -> yo man im awesome
Charles Claythorne -> iluswirl
DarkManticoreX2 -> lurker
MrPopadopalis25 -> DarkManticoreX2
j-rodd123 -> lurker
DaBackpack -> DarkManticoreX2
Charu -> DarkManticoreX2
iluswirl -> DarkManticoreX2

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Night 2 begins now and will end Wednesday, 7/2 at 8:00 p.m. Server Time.



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definitely watch this youtube video.

[dAnceguy117]

yo man im awesome has been wolfed! He was a Mason.

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Day 3 begins now and will end Friday, 7/4 at 8:00 p.m. Server Time or upon lynch.

5 votes are required to lynch.


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ymia wants a youtube video so heres the best one pretty much.

[j-rodd123]

hey thanks again xiz for that great day 1 plan

[yo man im awesome]

Hey I didn't get a death video!

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Yay I get to relax!

Either way, to you humans:

[Vendetta21]

Hey guys I apologize for how hard I was tunneling Manti. I feel kinda like an idiot and realize I took a far too active role yesterday and clouded out a lot of options for both myself and everyone else in the game because I was convinced I had caught wolf Manti.

[j-rodd123]

also a bit surprised yoman wasn't kept alive. I mean i thought he was wolfy and would've made an easy mislynch target. if he was kept alive and pressured today, which i probably would've continued doing, i bet he would get close to a lynch and claim and out the other mason. obviously a mason hunt kill but could've gotten both with him alive so i guess we can look on the bright side in that regard

[j-rodd123]

Originally Posted by Charu

To be honest, I think I'll have a better idea who I want to go after tomorrow if I see Manti's flip.

If Manti flips green, I think I know for sure where my vote is going to go tomorrow.

If he's actually a wolf, well, I'm going to have to rethink some stuff next day phase, but I still have an idea of who.

Manti

ok care to elaborate?

[Charu]

Alright, lets do this.

iluswirl

That hammer looked bogus, I mean come now. What is this?

Originally Posted by iluswirl

I am rather split on the manti/lurker controversy as both seem so passive it's ridiculous. DBP has been awful quiet this phase, although i'm not one to speak on that regard.

So I've never played with lurker as far as I know. I don't really know his playstyle and so I can't really say whether this analytical but silent playstyle is normal or not.

Manti is UTR but is nonchalantly defending himself. Unfortunately phase is almost over, I wish i could have been around more to post.

manti

This looks like to me "Man, I don't know who to pick, I'm just going to go with Manti because wow, everyone ELSE WANTS TO!"

To be frank, if YMIA was alive today, I would've auto voted him (which is why I stated I would know who to exactly vote for if Manti ended up green.)

I'm honestly surprised that wolves didn't keep him around because of the suspicions some expressed. He would be in a shaky water even if he said "Oh, I'm actually the mason guys."