A Puzzle To Keep You Occupied

Posted in Flash Flash Revolution, Spontaneous Contests on October 12th, 2008

With Synth working hard up optimizing and updating our SmartFox (which is why ProChat and MP are currently down), I thought it’d be nice to give all you guys a little distraction.

Be the 1st person to solve this FFR releated puzzle and win 50,000 credits and a 6 month subscription.  Post your answers in the comments of this story.

NOTE: do NOT post the answers to the 8 individual questions…  you will only be helping other people!

1. Number of songs with 1 AAA.
2. The userID of the 1st person besides Synth to step a song for FFR minus that user’s age minus the levelID of the 2nd song he stepped.
3. The average levelID of the 3rd widget.
4. Find all the letters of the alphabet that are not represented as the 1st letter of an FFR artist (including widgets).  In HEX, the sum of these lowercase letters.
5. This song has the highest percentage of AAAs per users who have played it (minimum of 500+ AAAs).  Take the number of AAAs (rounded to the nearest hundred) divided by the percentage of users who have AAAd (rounded to the nearest 10 percent).
6. The number of notes in the second song by Excluded added to FFR.
7. The average rank (rounded to the nearest whole number) of the user who has the 2nd best average rank out of users who are 8th in their region.
8. Assuming all clicks were accepted, the number of t-shirts we’ve given away from linking to FFR.

Sum the answers to the above 8 questions and your answer will be the number of notes in a song (or songs).  what song(s)?

-Tass

281 Responses to “A Puzzle To Keep You Occupied”

  1. !

  2. :O! its immpossible

  3. OH LAWDY

  4. fixed #4… i had written the wrong thing.

  5. 30 XD!!

  6. oh.. wait its 122!

  7. Oh tass, how could anyone do such an impossible feat

  8. Im stuck on the third one.

  9. =]
    wow, definately need to at least try

  10. i don’t like making easy puzzles… so i tried to use information that is 100% public, yet still a bit tricky to find and/or even know where to find it.

  11. 233

  12. Yea, I’m not going to try this…

  13. ugh Rubix will get it eventually…

  14. 1337 EHHS

  15. i like how 2 people have posted numbers. 1. i clearly said not to post answers to the 8 questions (not that they did, most likely). 2. the answer is a song (or songs)… not a number. learn to read people.

  16. lol tass

  17. This is quite the perplexing problem.
    I may have to take a Best-Educated Guess.

  18. thats why i said ehhs :)

  19. The Games We Played Part 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5

  20. hokay, I give up =D

  21. BB Euro, BB Evolution and BB Revenge

  22. there is no way you’re going to “best guess” on this. not with 700+ songs.

  23. Maple Leaf Rag.

  24. Go!, Garyuutensei, or Rumia?

  25. Free space, Super mario 8-bits, Trip to the moon.

  26. Exite bike

  27. I have 5 out of 8 clues solved.
    I MUST GET THIS

  28. Story of Snowman, and Sunshine girl

  29. Death piano, Electro rush v2, Here we go?

  30. Paranoia, Zodiac, Kick It?

  31. Yeah, I got 1 and 2. Then I saw the others and how late I came into this and decided that I can’t win when it involves HEX..

  32. What do you mean by third widget? The third widget that was made?

  33. Anubis, Spontaneous Hydroxide v2?

  34. Melonman OP and Toph’s OP?

  35. Flight of the bumblebee.

  36. Vertex beta vrofl. i knew it.

  37. Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star

  38. i will guess it right no matter what.

  39. The adventures of lolo

  40. Dumbass people..

    Instead of being idiots who about actually trying to figure it out.

  41. For #7 do you mean Highest as in like second highest number, or second lowest number?

  42. both hellbeats.

  43. Wtf is HEX?

  44. hexadecimal or heximal or what ever the hell

  45. I just read about it, it’s too hard I give up yay.

  46. RunnyMorning (SGX MIX) or Activity Unbroken?

  47. Aberesque
    Color of Battle.

    one of those.

  48. Terror from Beyond or Expedite. Both have 514.

  49. Infernoplex

  50. Club/

  51. Hajnal

  52. nobody is right… and stop guessing 10 different sets of songs. and Lone: by “2nd highest” i mean 2nd best or 2nd closest to 1.

  53. Ok thanks

  54. edited #7 from “2nd highest” to “2nd best”

  55. Are token songs included for #5 Tass?

  56. also… if someone feels that their answer IS in fact correct, PM me with your solution to each of the 8 along with your explanation as to why that is your answer. it is possible that i made a mistake, although i’d like to think that i didn’t.

  57. Devil: there is 1 place on the site where it’ll make it really obvious as to the right answer. you shouldn’t have to go song by song to try and figure it out.

  58. I have the answer!!

    I forgot it. =D

  59. I hate HEX :( I was trying to figure out how to save state hack about 45 minutes ago, and I just couldn’t get it even with a gamefaqs “Secret of Evermore Save State Hacking Guide”

    Please help me out.. comment/PM me :]
    Thank you.

  60. Still on number 3

  61. On 3 do you mean the third one added or something else?

  62. Yeah I don’t know how to figure out number 3 either. Hmm

  63. i hate number three but I think that the song might be coactive…but i doubt it.

  64. Tass can you give us atleast a little hint?

  65. Cat Walk 2
    Amity
    Start Something

  66. Its excite Bike

  67. For #1, is this public / token / subcriber only, or even widget songs not included in the actual game? IIRC you, Tass, have the only AAA on a number of widget-based songs. Do those count?

  68. Haruka, Saikyou OX Keikaku, Green Twilight?

  69. Camille: there is 1 page on the site that will make #1 really easy. widget songs do not count for #1.

    For #3: yes, the 3rd widget added.

  70. wait

    FFR
    Disconnected

  71. Is it Funktacular?

  72. I am problably wrong but i got Black Noise –_– (I actually went through with all the math)

  73. pita

  74. Hatten Carnival, Hiszekeny, {Paranorma}

  75. Are you including subscriber songs?

  76. My head hurts…

  77. dr0p

  78. I guess #5 isn’t a token level… if it is, the number of AAAs rounded to the nearest 100 looks like zero.

  79. breakdown… stop just guessing tons of random songs.

    and, based on a PM i got… i updated #5. i had forgotten about Token Whore. that is NOT the song i am looking for, so it’s now qualified to only songs with 500+ AAAs.

  80. Wait, did you just add minumum 500+ AAAs? I swear I read that question a million times.

  81. I think I have number 3 What did you guys get?

  82. I found where i went wrong on one of the questions. I fixed it and got coactive as an answer.

  83. Dang it I wish extended level stats were fixed

  84. and, based on a PM i got… i updated #5. i had forgotten about Token Whore. that is NOT the song i am looking for, so it’s now qualified to only songs with 500+ AAAs.

    You ass I had up to #6 figured out using token whore **** now I have to start over well kinda, Your not really an ass I just got upset :(

  85. I think I have everything except number 3.. :(

  86. Ill give you 3 if you give me 4

  87. 7. The average rank (rounded to the nearest whole number) of the user who has the 2nd best average rank out of users who are 8th in their region.

    How is this even possible?

  88. ok last one

    Flight of the Bumblebee

  89. as i said earlier… if you think you have the right answer despite me saying that you don’t… PM me with your answers and explanations to all 8 questions.

    and i like it… no giving answers in the comments. at least do that stuff via PMs so it isn’t obvious.

  90. ok tass

    P.s. I only need number 8

  91. By 1 AAA, do you mean PFC or Rank 1?

  92. Hey Tass could I send you all my answers so far and can you see if there right or do I have to send all my answers at once because I want to check if my answeres are right.

  93. Netjet: i mean PFC. as stated earlier, there is 1 page that will make that question really easy.

    i like it: get all 8 and figure your answer. maybe it’ll be right.

  94. Switchback [Heavy]

  95. what the fuck is hex

  96. Max Forever.

  97. 8. Assuming all clicks were accepted, the number of t-shirts we’ve given away from linking to FFR.

    CrAP im stuck again.

  98. 3rd Widget…I’m guessing the 3rd Widget to be made? x.x im so dumb sorry rofl

  99. dammit ok maybe this is right

    For Your Love
    Color of Giggles

  100. Pants?

  101. Okay I know 5 and 8 are wrong can anyone help?

  102. i like it… 2nd warning.

  103. lol wow miscounted this whole time

    Roses and Butterflies [Standard]
    Lovely Lovely Lovely
    Fall

  104. Im sorry tass I wont post here again, until I get the answer.

  105. I think I may have gotten it.

  106. I’m not guessing randomly, I’m guessing songs with the range of arrows I’m looking for. For some of the questions, there’s more than one way to interpret them, so I estimated and used a range of numbers. (Obviously, that didn’t work.)

  107. Found a mistake. My answer is: lolharp.

  108. *sigh* I should learn the definition of minus.

    Another corrected answer: Kick It

  109. Yes, No Tass the suspense is killing me, I just stated earlier that I needed credits and this would be awesome.
    http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/videos/index.php?songid=4285

  110. there really isn’t more than 1 way to interpret… if you have a question about a question, ask it and i’ll clarify (as i’ve already done for others).

    still no correct answers.

    lone: answers should be posted here, not PMed… but yours is still wrong. PMs are for if you think that i’m wrong and want to show me HOW you got your final answer.

    so far only 1 person has PMed me. *shrugs*. all i told him was that 3 of his answers were wrong, so i didn’t give too much help.

  111. Battle Theme 37, Infinity 301, Abtrusity.

  112. Oh ok Sorry I will PM you the ones I got

  113. Love Cheat!

  114. OMG

    Stay With Me (Unlikely) FFR V2

  115. There are a couple artists that have uppercase AND lowercase letters starting their names… that’s a bit confusing. I’m assuming I have to keep the value in hex, too.

    Also, I have no idea how to find the third widget ever created.

  116. Take Me Back?

  117. Ok redoing my answers I got

    Vertex Beta

  118. I got Fig Leaf Rag

  119. so, i think i found something… i hadn’t thought about it earlier though. in terms of the 3rd widget, i’m talking about the 3rd widget MADE… not the 3rd one announced as being released. aka, the 3rd one we announced was not actually the 3rd one we made. there were a few made before it, but were not released until a little later.

    and camille: you’re over thinking… i’m merely saying that any letter not in FFR, convert it to HEX using lowercase. if i did not specify upper or lowercase, it would be ambiguous and would have 2 potential solutions.

  120. So that was what didn’t work…

  121. Now you are confusing me I really dont get HEX

  122. Air Breeze

    Probably wrong again, but eh.

  123. Ah Tass, you messed me up on the third one. Thought I had it all.

  124. Between The Sheets [Heavy]

  125. Soul Shift (ffr Edit)

  126. Melonmans OP?

  127. Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival

  128. 4 Chord Touhou

  129. I hate #3 ;__;

  130. in 24 minutes can you give a hint since that would be 4 hours since it has started?

  131. ugh. Have fun with those credits whoever.

  132. Otaku Speedvibe [Oni] and Midnight Dragon

  133. Blue Army

  134. ^ If that’s not right, I think it’s STRAWBERRY SWEETZ

  135. Degenerates ?

  136. Lunatic Princess =/

  137. wow, I gave up forever ago and still nobody got it?
    ooh, tass…nice going =]

  138. Rumia, Sealed Youkai of the Night

  139. Grandolin

  140. Choprite

  141. The Brain of the Moon

  142. One more guess

    Flying High [Heavy]

  143. Plain Asia

  144. Vertex Beta vROFL (lolguess)

  145. GO!

  146. the Dream of Scarlet

  147. the Casket of Star

  148. Do a Barrel Roll!

  149. #4 is screwed.

  150. Dimensions

  151. Klung Kung ?

  152. ddr_f4n: stop spamming guesses.

    ps – rubix started working on this 9 minutes ago. y’all are in trouble now.

  153. Bricks

  154. Hent Please.

  155. =(

  156. Hint*

  157. One more guess:

    Border of Maximum

  158. Crowdpleaser

  159. here’s a hint that is more obvious than the same thing i said above already…

    #3 is NOT daniel strider’s widget… it’s one that precedes it.

  160. Yes thaank you Tass

  161. Policy In The Sky?

  162. The world as we know it?

  163. Oops, hope I can change my guess. I was a bit hasty since I saw this later in the day.

    Secrets and Lies is my actual guess. I’m still probably wrong though, haha.

  164. you can submit answers multiple times… but guessing won’t get you the right answer, even if you’re right. i’m going to want to know how you got your answer, which i’ll do via PM.

  165. how r we to find user ID?
    i know im a nub >.<

  166. straight to video, i win

  167. Need two more

  168. wait for #4, are we only looking for the lower case alphabet letters not there?

  169. mr rubix is hacking!!

  170. Crap Stop it Rubix

  171. XD, jk

  172. By “guess” I meant “attempted correct answer”; I didn’t randomly come up with the song, but instead, through answering the 8 individual questions.

    Are we to send a PM with our posted answer as well, or will you be asking for it if our answer is correct?

  173. i’ll ask for it if your answer is correct, if i think you weren’t 100% randomly guessing. if i think you were 100% guessing (like you’ve posted 20 different songs), then i won’t say anything to you.

    and for #4… look for any letter that isn’t at the start of an artist’s name… but for the HEX, use the lowercase values.

  174. I submitted another answer to Tass… *crosses fingers*

  175. Need one more

  176. Story of Snowman and Sunshine Girl v2 and Disconnected -mobius-

  177. Tass it won’t let me IM you on AIM. Damnit I have all 8 and the correct answer.

  178. Either those two or Glove Stage- Ultra Sweden depending on the answer to the third question.

  179. my Trillian crashed or something… it won’t connect. If you have all 8, you can say what song(s) it is here, like i requested initially…

    i already know you have the other 7 right. just all about #3.

  180. Nooooooo Rubix don’t guesssss!!!

  181. the wanderer

  182. I don’t get it -____-

    I swear I did all of the problems right, I still don’t have the answer.

  183. Fierce Combat

  184. wait, is it song for the nionjins?

    crap, ive messed up my calculations. i had them right then i thoguht i made mistake and arrgghhh ive lost number 3 and 8 now

  185. i have no idea what 3 or 8 are nor do i know how the hell to find them.

    i have some idea of three but it may come down to a random guess

  186. i’m going to get food. i’ll be back. hopefully someone will have the answer and be certain they’re right with it.

  187. EXCITE BIKE

  188. cutting circles is my last shot, i got 7 out of 8 right so i guessed the last one. oh well. if cutting circles isnt right, congratulations for whoeveer does get it riht

  189. Funk in G

  190. (it is NOT excite bike, if you would take time to figure out even 2 of these questions, theres already mor than 100 notes in the song.

  191. I have a question. When will Synth be done with the chats? Just wondering.

  192. Piano Etude (Gymnastics)and Gaussian Blur

  193. lol its probably VB the impossible version

  194. I redid the math again and got:
    Between The Sheets [Heavy], Disconnected -mobius-, and Story of Snowman and Sunshine Girl v2

  195. grrr…I wish I knew HEX…

  196. Splash Beats.

  197. Utopia

  198. we have a winner! DarkProdigy.

  199. GG

  200. I had 1,266,350 score or 817 steps (the third Widget is Automatic Loveletter)

  201. Oh, I guess I was wrong then

  202. Aw :( Can you post the answers to the questions?

  203. Third widget was LoveHateHero Apparently

  204. Disc Mobius and the Sunshine girl song also had 817

  205. i got 3274 arrows

  206. GJ

  207. 1. 6
    2. 43
    3. 437
    4. 71
    5. 25
    6. 184
    7. 45
    8. 6

  208. didn’t know the 3rd widget for sure, :( only 14 combo off though

  209. Ok then

  210. So was the answer Glove Stage? If it is, it would explain where I went wrong; I counted Necropotence as a level with only 1 AAA (and it does have only 1 AAA), but it doesn’t show up on Extended Game Level Stats.

  211. Oh well, I still maintain you dudes had a four-hour head start, lmao

  212. Had them all except 3 :(

  213. Seven

  214. Congrats DarkProdigy.

    Tass, can you put up the answers?

  215. The third Widget is Automatic Loveletter — there are three songs with ID’s of 436, 437, and 438 for an average of 437. Had to sort of brute-force it though until (that number + the sum of the other 7)*1550 = something on the levelranks

  216. Explanation of solutions:

    #1 – use extended level stats to get 6 (apparently there is a 7th that isn’t on extended level stats… but i did say that it can be solved easily, meaning extended level stats)

    #2 – Nestlekwik was the 1st besides Synth. He is userID 92. He is 27. His 2nd file is levelID 22. 92-27-22 = 43

    #3 – The tough one! if you had gone to flashflashrevolution.com/widgets, it would have been really simple for you. A little research would show (through front page news posts) that Making April was the 1st widget. LoveHateHero was the 2nd. Then, you’ll note Valencia, Veritas, then These Silhouettes in chronological order on the page. Valencia only had 1 level at the time and didn’t get a widget until months later. Veritas is only 1 level… not a widget. That leaves These Silhouettes as 3rd. The average levelID is 429.

    #4 – The only letter not represented by one of our artists is Q. The lowercase value in HEX for q is 71.

    #5 – Again, use extended level stats… and Disconnected should immediately jump out at you. 1502 AAAs and only 2401 players. That is 62.5%. so 1500 / 60 = 25.

    #6 – The 2nd excluded song is For Who I Am, which has 184 steps. The song list would have told you this easily.

    #7 – Regional rank page makes this simple… just look at everyone who is rank 8, and take the guy with the 2nd best average rank. Answer is 45.

    #8 – Come Play With Me is the key to this one. Get 5000 on the CPWM count to get a t-shirt. there are 5 accounts over 5000, but 1 is over 10,000 which would be a 2nd shirt. Answer is 6.

    Add them all up for 809, which is the note count for Glove Stage – Ultra Sweden.

  217. Yep, that explains where I went wrong. Perhaps I tried too hard, haha.

  218. I guess I was totally wrong then on #3. Poo.

  219. D:

    Can you do another one of these contests that requires like problem-solving (as opposed to scavenger hunting)

  220. dang.. all but #3.

  221. Sweet, I won. Any chance I could have the subscription replaced with credits? 6 months subscription would have me set, well into 2010, and FFR gambling hit me hard, you know?

  222. I dont think they do that.

  223. So what exactly is HEX?

  224. The reason I got the wrong answer is due too wrong hints and clues before they were corrected.
    Clever and fun though!
    You should have another contest soon :)

  225. Google “hex values of letters chart” or something like that and you can see that “q” = 71 in HEX.

  226. SSGGv2 and Disconnected Mobius?

  227. Oh shit I just realized DP got it. Shit.

  228. AH CRAP.
    I totally missed this.
    >_______________<

  229. Sarah.. lol. no.

  230. trip to the moon

  231. Can you send us a tshirt? (the banned user with the url name).

  232. I got everything but 2.

    Gah

  233. 843

  234. Comment #218
    October 12, 2008:

    Rubix screws up on something.
    This day will be remembered…

  235. I missed this completely… :( But I agree, problem solving could be interesting compared to simply scavenging.

  236. Oh hawt guess who was part of an answer

  237. My guess is “-Y”

  238. Planet karma.

  239. Here we go

  240. you guys….the puzzle is over. DarkProdigy won.

  241. IS IT EXCITE BIKE LOL

  242. Tass, Rubix got another AAA last night, which adds another song to the list of 1 songs with 1 AAA…

    Will this affect the outcome?

  243. WTF. I missed this?!

  244. wow i came in really late =.= oh well i wouldnt have gotten it any way =D but yea i read almost all the comments then got bored alexdestructions
    was actually kinda funny saying he got the answer then forgot it i kinda figured mr.rubix was gunna get it any way =/ but oh well

  245. a bit… too late?

  246. Heh. All I was missing was the widget. Oh well.

  247. OMFG TOOK ME 3 MINUTES TO FIND ALL THE ANSWERS WITHOUT LOOKING AT ALL THOSE COMMENTES THEN GOT THE ANSWERS AND I WAS ABOUT TO PM TASS THEN I LOOKED AT THESE COMMENTES TO FIND OUT I WAS TOOOOOOOOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GOD DAMN ITTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    W/E
    TASS U SHOULD DO THIS AGAIN SOON

  248. damn i had all the answers in 3 mins then i figured out that i missed this
    son of a bi…u know the rest

  249. Didn’t someone else answer glove stage before DP?

  250. uhhh . . Grand gallop chromatique??

  251. electro rush x8 v2

  252. vertex beta vrofl

    ??

  253. oh I got it uh . . . . .

    oh yeah – Blaze, Rose, and EHHS

  254. blooddrunk and divine suicide of k

  255. last guess for today –

    RunnyMorning ??? :{

  256. oh man i just noticed that it was over

    oh well :(

  257. Guys. Please. Stop posting things. Tass has CLEARLY stated up above the answers to the questions, as well as the declaration of winner.

    The only thing you’re demonstrating by posting additional songs is your apparent inability to read a thread.

  258. Does this have to do with why I can’t access any subscriber features at the moment?

  259. Dam!!! This is freakin hard.
    I have no clue…..

  260. I don’t know if this has been mentioned yet, but I got 1337… EHHS and Battle Theme #37.

  261. Neverminddd, answer is posted. =)

  262. @ danny, tass is updating the forums and apparently nobody’s sub works right now.

    @emanuel, can you not read 2 posts above you -___-”

  263. So, is it a bug if a non-subscriber can access the beta FFR game? Because I can access it with this account using the link directly to the flash file for the beta version.

  264. Alpla helix…and skydive :?

  265. People are still guessing… What is wrong with you guys? Can’t you read? :/

  266. Washmanooses Op

  267. Totally missed this rofl. And if I hadn’t, I still would’ve failed. xP

  268. wow… i was REALLY late..
    oh well.. theres always next time…

  269. “the number of t-shirts we’ve given away from linking to FFR”
    You give away t-shirts for linking to FFR? since when? >.>

  270. …………………………..

  271. i know i know Party For U v2 and Sword Strike

  272. anyone got it yet? or even close

  273. DarkProdigy has already gotten the answer; tass has already posted the solution and how to solve the problem; and can anyone tell me why mrrubikks is so well known as a puzzle-solver in this community?

  274. It would help if the winner of these things were presented in the initial post rather having the readers scroll and sift through hundreds of posts to figure out if someone won or not. Maybe then will people stop posting answers after it has already been solved.

    Just a suggestion.

  275. Ub3r r4v3 v2,Flight of the bubble bee,EHHS,Air and im not sure..xD damn

  276. i dont really know i cant think of wth is this. sorry i give up =/

  277. OHH GREAT., THIS IS SO UNFAIR, 50000 CREDITS DOWN DA DRAIN

  278. How many times could we guess?


    Go Go Go Power rangers ;)

  279. seriously people. do you actually read the admin comments? tass posted the answers. And i agree with Mahjix. The winner should be posted in the main post.

  280. Glove Stage – Ultra Sweden? lol

  281. Necropotance

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