CALLlNG ALL PLAYERS

**stargroup100** · 06-13-2012, 02:00 PM

As some of you may or may not know, I'm currently working on a difficulty algorithm that will attempt to automatically calculate the difficulty of a chart. While I have basic sketches and concepts laid down, they are far from perfect. And that is why I need your help.

By either PM (here or over on KBO) or email (bufangliang@gmail.com), send a message with the following information:

- The songs on FFR (or KBO for that matter) you can just barely full combo. ("just barely" implies that if the song was any harder, you probably wouldn't be able to full combo it)
- The songs on FFR (or KBO) you can just barely read. ("reading" implies you can play through a chart without mashing. be honest) The songs you can read should be significantly harder than the songs you can full combo.

It does not matter how good or bad you are at this game. I need data from players of all skill levels.

For those who cannot find a chart difficult enough to read, please instead use the following link, and give the BPM full combo/reading thresholds for the pattern "Index Stream": http://www.keybeatonline.com/testing..._generator.php

If any of this is unclear or if there are any questions, feel free to ask. Thanks again everyone!

**Jerry DB** · 06-13-2012, 02:25 PM

how many boos is the limit for the fc?

**Winrar** · 06-13-2012, 02:26 PM

How many misses/boos is the limit for barely reading?

**Ksl33zy24** · 06-13-2012, 02:32 PM

please, no! I love boos and fcs, don't implement a limit!

**SKG_Scintill** · 06-13-2012, 02:34 PM

who are you?

**Gundam-Dude** · 06-13-2012, 02:38 PM

FFR4EVA_00 · 06-13-2012, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKG_Scintill

who are you?

who are you

prefx · 06-13-2012, 02:46 PM

I have 3 grilfriends.

Player reporting in.

**stargroup100** · 06-13-2012, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry DB

how many boos is the limit for the fc?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winrar

How many misses/boos is the limit for barely reading?

Use your own judgment, but generally boos shouldn't be more than 5-15% of your max combo, depending on how easy or hard the chart is. The general rule of thumb is, if you feel like you cheesed through the stage by mashing rather than trying to hit the notes, you probably shouldn't count that.

Choofers · 06-13-2012, 03:06 PM

Nice trill in Blue Rose.

**Hakulyte** · 06-13-2012, 03:34 PM

Rain[YMCK], Zombie Sunset, Storm Raid Battle, Mourning the Lost, mutant corecore, 11ELEVEN, Flight of the Bumblebee, Club.

I don't get your reading one because I could play vrofl without mashing. My score would be terrible, but yeah..

in b4 my playstyle ruins algorythm.

**stargroup100** · 06-13-2012, 04:16 PM

Here's an idea of what I mean by "read".

Suppose you have a never-ending stream of 16th notes. There is a certain BPM at which you can consistently combo everything, but go any higher and you'll probably start missing notes. Then if you keep going higher, there's a certain BPM where eventually you just can't keep up anymore and you have to mash just to stay alive. That's your cap for "reading".

I highly doubt you can read vrofl. If you examine a replay of your play of that song, you'll notice that there are a lot of boos and/or combo breakers, which implies that you are attempting to mash through. Reading through something means you can combo most of it with few boos, but occasionally you'll drop a few things because it's so difficult to keep up.

**MarioNintendo** · 06-13-2012, 05:33 PM

Playing random songs and seeing what I can find!

Barely FC:

-Bit Blue
-Infiltration
-Angel Island Remix
-Twilight Jewel (omg just FC'ed it this evening after all these years of trying)

Barely read:

-grind2
-Caprice
-Frictional Nevada

NOTE: will send as a PM if finished, just easier to edit if it's in a post.

**rushyrulz** · 06-13-2012, 05:54 PM

**stargroup100** · 06-13-2012, 07:21 PM

Thanks guys, keep 'em coming.

**gold stinger** · 06-13-2012, 07:36 PM

Barely FC: NaiNai69, Perfect Cherry Storm, Sparkle Downer, car sax,

Barely read: Reality, zombie sunset, scrap syndrome, Rave7

**MikeShinoda12345** · 06-13-2012, 09:41 PM

barely fc: grist, j'ai envie, scrap syndrome, quick death, crowdpleaser, winter wind etude, husigi

barely read: death piano ending of second jumpglut and final bs), rave7, do i smile (16th stream)

FFR4EVA_00 · 06-13-2012, 10:27 PM

barely fc: nothing
barely read: nothing
hi i'm dossar

**stargroup100** · 06-21-2012, 10:44 AM

Still looking for players.

**Arbliterator** · 06-21-2012, 10:51 AM

Barely FC: General songs in the lower brutal and higher guru section; Betrayal, Mathsma Attack, STRAWBERRY SWEETZ, Pandora (Haven't FC'd all of these but I could if I cared about combo-scoring.)

Barely Read: grind2, FREEDOM DiVE, Schmollbluk, A Quick Death

06-13-2012, 02:00 PM	#1
stargroup100 behanjc & me are <3'ers Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,051	CALLlNG ALL PLAYERS As some of you may or may not know, I'm currently working on a difficulty algorithm that will attempt to automatically calculate the difficulty of a chart. While I have basic sketches and concepts laid down, they are far from perfect. And that is why I need your help. By either PM (here or over on KBO) or email (bufangliang@gmail.com), send a message with the following information: - The songs on FFR (or KBO for that matter) you can just barely full combo. ("just barely" implies that if the song was any harder, you probably wouldn't be able to full combo it) - The songs on FFR (or KBO) you can just barely read. ("reading" implies you can play through a chart without mashing. be honest) The songs you can read should be significantly harder than the songs you can full combo. It does not matter how good or bad you are at this game. I need data from players of all skill levels. For those who cannot find a chart difficult enough to read, please instead use the following link, and give the BPM full combo/reading thresholds for the pattern "Index Stream": http://www.keybeatonline.com/testing..._generator.php If any of this is unclear or if there are any questions, feel free to ask. Thanks again everyone! Last edited by stargroup100; 06-23-2012 at 07:16 AM..

06-13-2012, 02:25 PM	#2
Jerry DB FFR, lift, repeat Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: oregon Age: 32 Posts: 2,071	Re: CALLlNG ALL PLAYERS how many boos is the limit for the fc? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

06-13-2012, 02:32 PM	#4
Ksl33zy24 The New York Yankees Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cicero, NY Age: 40 Posts: 1,047	Re: CALLlNG ALL PLAYERS please, no! I love boos and fcs, don't implement a limit!

06-13-2012, 02:38 PM	#6
Gundam-Dude `~` Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7,327	Re: CALLlNG ALL PLAYERS no __________________ (Download My Magnum Opus, Solo Kpop Pack!) My Simfiles (4key & 6key)

06-13-2012, 03:06 PM	#10
Choofers FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Age: 33 Posts: 6,205	Re: CALLlNG ALL PLAYERS Nice trill in Blue Rose. __________________

06-13-2012, 03:34 PM	#11
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,525	Re: CALLlNG ALL PLAYERS Rain[YMCK], Zombie Sunset, Storm Raid Battle, Mourning the Lost, mutant corecore, 11ELEVEN, Flight of the Bumblebee, Club. I don't get your reading one because I could play vrofl without mashing. My score would be terrible, but yeah.. in b4 my playstyle ruins algorythm. Last edited by Hakulyte; 06-13-2012 at 03:36 PM..

06-13-2012, 04:16 PM	#12
stargroup100 behanjc & me are <3'ers Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,051	Re: CALLlNG ALL PLAYERS Here's an idea of what I mean by "read". Suppose you have a never-ending stream of 16th notes. There is a certain BPM at which you can consistently combo everything, but go any higher and you'll probably start missing notes. Then if you keep going higher, there's a certain BPM where eventually you just can't keep up anymore and you have to mash just to stay alive. That's your cap for "reading". I highly doubt you can read vrofl. If you examine a replay of your play of that song, you'll notice that there are a lot of boos and/or combo breakers, which implies that you are attempting to mash through. Reading through something means you can combo most of it with few boos, but occasionally you'll drop a few things because it's so difficult to keep up. __________________ Rhythm Simulation Guide Comments, criticism, suggestions, contributions, etc. are all welcome. Piano Etude Demon Fire sheet music Last edited by stargroup100; 06-13-2012 at 04:38 PM..

06-13-2012, 05:54 PM	#14
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 31 Posts: 12,980	Re: CALLlNG ALL PLAYERS sent __________________

06-13-2012, 07:21 PM	#15
stargroup100 behanjc & me are <3'ers Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,051	Re: CALLlNG ALL PLAYERS Thanks guys, keep 'em coming. __________________ Rhythm Simulation Guide Comments, criticism, suggestions, contributions, etc. are all welcome. Piano Etude Demon Fire sheet music

06-13-2012, 09:41 PM	#17
MikeShinoda12345 \(^o^)/ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Age: 27 Posts: 1,889	Re: CALLlNG ALL PLAYERS barely fc: grist, j'ai envie, scrap syndrome, quick death, crowdpleaser, winter wind etude, husigi barely read: death piano ending of second jumpglut and final bs), rave7, do i smile (16th stream) Last edited by MikeShinoda12345; 06-21-2012 at 11:54 AM..

06-13-2012, 10:27 PM	#18
FFR4EVA_00 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Banned Posts: 1,770	Re: CALLlNG ALL PLAYERS barely fc: nothing barely read: nothing hi i'm dossar __________________ ~~Lurkadurk - 1134-7796-6967~~

06-21-2012, 10:44 AM	#19
stargroup100 behanjc & me are <3'ers Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,051	Re: CALLlNG ALL PLAYERS Still looking for players. __________________ Rhythm Simulation Guide Comments, criticism, suggestions, contributions, etc. are all welcome. Piano Etude Demon Fire sheet music

06-21-2012, 10:51 AM	#20
Arbliterator FFR Veteran Join Date: Oct 2011 Age: 32 Posts: 780	Re: CALLlNG ALL PLAYERS Barely FC: General songs in the lower brutal and higher guru section; Betrayal, Mathsma Attack, STRAWBERRY SWEETZ, Pandora (Haven't FC'd all of these but I could if I cared about combo-scoring.) Barely Read: grind2, FREEDOM DiVE, Schmollbluk, A Quick Death

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