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Old 09-9-2008, 10:37 AM   #21
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Default Re: Should Beliefs Really Change the Way Others Treat You?

"It's much better to discriminate against someone based on their ideas, which are substantive or at least have substantive consequences, than to discriminate against them based on something arbitrary."

Amen. Pure objectivity is impossible, and wouldn't you rather have someone judge you on beliefs rather things like appearances?
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Old 09-9-2008, 11:32 AM   #22
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To discriminate merely means to consider something as distinct from something else. Enjoying vanilla ice cream and not chocolate ice cream is discriminatory because you've formed two seperate opinions about the quality of two varieties of the same substance.

There's nothing wrong with discrimination when it is based on fact. Preferring a qualified applicant for a job over an unqualified applicant is discrimination.

The poor kind of discimination is discimination based on qualities that aren't germane to the subject at hand. The colour of one's skin has no effect on their qualifications for a job, nor does their taste in clothes or music have an effect on their ability to teach, or whatever else you want to plug into those variables.

Yes your beliefs should change the way others treat you but only in respect to the areas where those beliefs have a direct impact on your doing things in those areas. Someone who believes that blood transfusion is a sin probably should be treated differently when say, applying to work at a blood bank.
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:33 PM   #23
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simple answer: no

For furture reference: Simple one-word answers in CT are wrong answers. You need to elaborate on your point and defend your view.
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Old 09-23-2008, 06:14 PM   #24
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This has affected me (frontman of the band) in many ways at our school. What I am trying to say, is that even though I am a Catholic, I have some beliefs that the Satanists have. This including the belief that you have to be your own person and live out your own life on Earth, and take out your own ideals, not those of others.

But because of these beliefs, they say the myself and others that are the same way are against the Church and then we are shunned by many, except for the few that really don't care about beliefs.

So, how about you guys? Should a belief really define the way you are treated, if you treat others with the respect you want from them?

Though I know most of you will say no, it is not right for a belief to change the way others treat you. Would having a belief that may oppose others beliefs almost so much that it may be offensive (ex: my beliefs vs. the die-hard Christians) change the way they treat you? Or should they leave that only in their heads?

That is all.

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Well I'm a Christian and I'd treat you as I do everybody else. I always show respect regardless of other's beliefs. It's only when they don't do the same that I don't hesitate to reciprocate.

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Beliefs effect the way you perceive the world and therefore act or create opinions therefore people should absolutely be able to perceive who you are based on your belief. If you are a semi-Satanist, and Catholics stand for everything Satanists don't, they should be able to think you are are evil.
The question wasn't regarding other's perceptions, but how they treat you as a result of them.
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