[Dev] Normal Token Revamp

[PhantomPuppy]

ooh, i like this idea. token hints were very weird and i had no idea what they were trying to get me to do. revamped token system sounds great

[Frank Munoz]

Originally Posted by RenegadeLucien

Yeah, I am. Every song gives me a different judge offset. It's ranged from pretty much 0, to as far as -1, and a bunch of stuff in between. I don't know how big a jump is enough to affect play but for me a difference of 0.2 would make me drop at least one random good, and a difference of more than 0.5 would make me drop many goods.

I don't know about you guys, but if I have to adjust my offsets for every song, there's something seriously wrong.

Don't worry, you're not alone.
It will take some time to truly adapt to r3,
Is it worth it?
I guess, I mean it's really pretty...

When I was configuring my offsets to my playstyle and felt comfortable, I noticed that I would gradually adapt everyday. Meaning i had to change my settings every. Day.
And I'm okay with that cause it shows progress to me. I understood fully why I needed to adjust something
BUT!
one thing I noticed was when I played on a format that wasn't fp9/10 the arrows fluctuate.

It's really noticeable when I play in browser.
the timing, speed of arrows, song sync, offests, are completely wrong.
I figured it may have just been me and my laptop but now I'm not so sure.
I haven't played in a while though, but I think you're experiencing the same thing. Might haveta run some tests on this.


Also token revamp is awesome,
I believe this is much much muuuuuch more user friendly.
Especially to newer players.

[yo man im awesome]

Originally Posted by Frank Munoz

Don't worry, you're not alone.
It will take some time to truly adapt to r3,
Is it worth it?
I guess, I mean it's really pretty...

When I was configuring my offsets to my playstyle and felt comfortable, I noticed that I would gradually adapt everyday. Meaning i had to change my settings every. Day.
And I'm okay with that cause it shows progress to me. I understood fully why I needed to adjust something
BUT!
one thing I noticed was when I played on a format that wasn't fp9/10 the arrows fluctuate.

It's really noticeable when I play in browser.
the timing, speed of arrows, song sync, offests, are completely wrong.
I figured it may have just been me and my laptop but now I'm not so sure.
I haven't played in a while though, but I think you're experiencing the same thing. Might haveta run some tests on this.


Also token revamp is awesome,
I believe this is much much muuuuuch more user friendly.
Especially to newer players.

Only time I have ever experience that or similar issues is when I leave FFR open for >24 hours without using it

[RenegadeLucien]

Wait, so we need Flash player 9 (which, I might add, has been discontinued support by Adobe) for R^3 to work properly?

THAT might be an issue... (running FP21)

[MinaciousGrace]

i don't know about you guys but if i've been cured of vampirism once already i wouldn't want to contract it again

[Untimely Friction]

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace

i don't know about you guys but if i've been cured of vampirism once already i wouldn't want to contract it again

you must mean something by this... could you substanciate it? Explain what you mean? Unless it's totally a meme, but Im actually interested af in your opinion on this particularily

[rushyrulz]

Originally Posted by RenegadeLucien

Wait, so we need Flash player 9 (which, I might add, has been discontinued support by Adobe) for R^3 to work properly?

THAT might be an issue... (running FP21)

FP10-12 is best for R^3.

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by RenegadeLucien

Wait, so we need Flash player 9 (which, I might add, has been discontinued support by Adobe) for R^3 to work properly?

THAT might be an issue... (running FP21)

Standalone guide has a dedicated FP9 link

[rushyrulz]

I think he was more taking issue about the fact that we're required to use an unsupported version of Flash to run this game properly.

[MinaciousGrace]

Originally Posted by Untimely Friction

you must mean something by this... could you substanciate it? Explain what you mean? Unless it's totally a meme, but Im actually interested af in your opinion on this particularily

you are correct, i am referring to how vampirism is a transformative state of being that begins by literally grabbing you and sucking out your blood (or metaphorically, your life, as is the case for some when they initially find ffr) and then infuses you with an insatiable hunger that drives you to hunt down prey after prey (tokens) that do nothing to fill the infinite void in your soul. You are then doomed to realize after you drain the last living thing of its blood (achieved all tokens) that both your body and hunger are immortal and you will live in eternal starvation unless you are cured (stepmania).

Revamping the token system is in many ways akin to repopulating an earth entirely inhabited by the undead with living organisms, or re-infecting someone previously cured of vampirism, it is a meaningless gesture that inevitably recreates the problem it was trying to solve to begin with





actually you got me i'm just pulling shit out of my ass; i think revamping tokens is a good idea and it's nice to see an achievement system in a game that involves becoming better at it rather than an arbitrary amount of time invested

[Untimely Friction]

luv u mina

[igotrhythm]

Originally Posted by XelNya

My reasoning is entirely based in that they are absolutely pointless. Especially now with the skill rating system existing and doing it's job, but totally better.

There is absolutely zero offered to the table from them now. What purpose do they serve? A way to measure one's skill? Sorry. Skill rating already does that. Better even. A list of high difficulty songs with arbitrary point values assigned to them is literally just that.

Now. Rates recording kinda opens a new avenue for tier points and I'll give it that. You could change tier points to be based on rate scores, and I think having dabbled in rates a little more than I used to myself, I'd be interested in seeing this as a feature to give the fact rates record now a little more use. (But please never take the osu path of ranking on songs. That is literally my worst nightmare now days.) In fact, if I hadn't gotten kinda hooked on watching Staiain play SM, I'd be pretty peeved rates record.

Then they'd have value again, I guess. And be worthy of a token or two.

Rate scores count towards your grand total now?

brb stocking up for a run at 500mil

[TheSaxRunner05]

Ilikeit

So there should be a new race for highest GT in a day ...
Time for a new Gamewhore contest?

Hmmm???

[rushyrulz]

Hmmmmmm I like the way you think TSR.

[sickufully]

Originally Posted by TheSaxRunner05

Time for a new Gamewhore contest?

This needs to have its own thread

[rushyrulz]

In all realness, there's way too much going on right now to have a GWC lol. I can put it in my back pocket for a later discussion, though :P.

[ULTIMEGA]

Excluding the old support tokens and vROFL, what about the other normal tokens like Fractured Sunshine and Freedom Dive, for example? Like, I get that they are event tokens, but I was thinking maybe they should be easier to obtain. For instance, place 3rd place in a non-official tourney in any division for one, and make it to the semi-finals in an official tournament or something like that.

[_Zenith_]

Event tokens shouldn't change at all. They are difficult charts that go in accordance with difficult reqs (winning a sanctioned event against x amount of participants).

If anything, Event tokens are essentially a goal because most of them are good, and if you want one you should try your hardest to complete an event in which the staff is awarding an event token (always made known within the event).

[rushyrulz]

Originally Posted by ULTIMEGA

Excluding the old support tokens and vROFL, what about the other normal tokens like Fractured Sunshine and Freedom Dive, for example? Like, I get that they are event tokens, but I was thinking maybe they should be easier to obtain. For instance, place 3rd place in a non-official tourney in any division for one, and make it to the semi-finals in an official tournament or something like that.

Says the person not participating in an event currently running that offers a free token for completion.

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by ULTIMEGA

place 3rd place in a non-official tourney in any division for one,

non-officials should not be used for token unlocks as placement a lot of the time from what i've seen depends on number of people that sign up since divisions are then smaller, and people not actually submitting scores through the whole thing.