Mines in KeyBeat - Page 2

**jimerax** · 10-1-2009, 10:42 PM

mines are nice as long as they are properly used.

TC_llama499 · 10-1-2009, 10:44 PM

yes on mines

stargroup · 10-1-2009, 10:55 PM

wow 50/50 are you guys TRYING to do something here?

well it's not gonna work I'm implementing dis sh*t

**dood gone krazee** · 10-1-2009, 11:01 PM

If you're implementing mines then take out the boo system since they already act as "invisible mines."

[TeRa] · 10-1-2009, 11:06 PM

flash version of sm

**Sprite-** · 10-1-2009, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [TeRa]

flash version of sm

One reason why I'm against mines...but of course what Stargroup says goes.

**emulord** · 10-1-2009, 11:25 PM

I prefer the boo system to mines. Extra hits should always be punished.
I also dont like the "boom" sound from stepmania. If I hit a mine, it screws me up for the next pile of notes. I know I could probably change that, but whatever.
If you're afraid of mashing, dont worry. I tried and the 6 keys make mashing nearly impossible (more boos compared to notes hit). All in all, mines make stepfiles less fun imo.

So, my vote is a definite NO to mines, not the "not really" I was allowed to pick.

ChiefOlukOneHand · 10-1-2009, 11:37 PM

I don't understand how mines would make a difference.

I mean, 1) boos take the place of mines in all cases, 2) if I hold a key down for too long, my keyboard starts to repeat the key (automatic mine), 3) mines were designed to force dancers to move their feet; how hard is it to move your fingers? And how long do you leave your finger on the key, anyway?

I suppose mines could be used for distraction, which can be a valid addition, but I'm simply not seeing anything else.

stargroup · 10-1-2009, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [TeRa]

flash version of sm

yes I do realize that there will be a lot of similarities, but this will be changed up as much as possible

Quote:

Originally Posted by emulord

I also dont like the "boom" sound from stepmania. If I hit a mine, it screws me up for the next pile of notes. I know I could probably change that, but whatever.

in response to both these quotes, while the concept of mines will be implemented, we're not actually gonna make boom sounds. as a result, it probably won't throw you off much or even at all

Quote:

Originally Posted by emulord

I prefer the boo system to mines. Extra hits should always be punished.
...All in all, mines make stepfiles less fun imo.

the reason why I wanted to implement mines was because I wanted to give everyone the freedom of those extra hits, but limit it to certain areas/times, as well as giving notecharters a lot more creative options

**Ghakimx** · 10-2-2009, 12:11 AM

No no no no.

I never liked the usage of mines. They can be a serious problem/distraction, especially if EVERY level has them. Other rhythm games also never had them, even DDR, but in this case, Beatmania. Also, mines don't make sense within this context. Maybe bombs, but not mines.

stargroup · 10-2-2009, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghakimx

No no no no.

I never liked the usage of mines. They can be a serious problem/distraction, especially if EVERY level has them. Other rhythm games also never had them, even DDR, but in this case, Beatmania. Also, mines don't make sense within this context. Maybe bombs, but not mines.

you obviously didn't even read the first post

if I had choice I would remove your vote from the poll

**Patashu** · 10-2-2009, 12:24 AM

actually you can trigger a mine without hitting a boo b/c mines are triggered by held keys not by taps

i.e. if you hit a note, hold that finger and a mine passes through that column you get a mine hit without getting a boo

**stargroup100** · 10-2-2009, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stargroup100

5. There will no longer be a boo system.

Thank you for your time.

**Ghakimx** · 10-2-2009, 12:56 AM

Whoops, lol. I was dragged to the latest post, so I forgot to read the first.

Though even if my vote was removed, the results are still the same. At least for now.

**SKG_Scintill** · 10-2-2009, 05:43 AM

I actually voted "not really", although I think mines may be fun in some files, I'd like a mines-off function

**Vanilla Mnm** · 10-2-2009, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stargroup100

Don't be alarmed, they haven't been implemented yet.

Before some of you even begin to complain, let me assure you on a few points:

1. Mines will be used effectively, and will most certainly NOT be abused.
2. Most files will not even have mines, and those that do won't use many at all.
3. Mines will only be found on harder levels, as so not to frustrate beginners.
4. You will have the option to turn mines off (but will not record score due to unfairness).
5. There will no longer be a boo system.

Should we implement mines?

^
SKG_Scintill

**One Winged Angel** · 10-2-2009, 07:30 AM

mines are cool so w.e

eh stargroup, how long before we can start making accounts and ****?

**SKG_Scintill** · 10-2-2009, 07:53 AM

Vanilla, my post was intentionally a +1 on that item

**Xiaounlimited** · 10-2-2009, 01:18 PM

Just a sidenote: before boos were removed, holding down the key prevented any further inputs (i.e. you can hold a key and only get 1 boo). Holding a key didn't work for anything but holds. Blast fixed that quite some time ago.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patashu

stargroup loves anal

yes

**PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR** · 10-2-2009, 02:42 PM

I think my position on this is already pretty solid, but I'm all for having mines.

View Poll Results: Should KeyBeat Online implement mines?
Most definitely.	24	26.97%
Probably, but only if they're used right.	28	31.46%
Not really.	27	30.34%
Not sure, I'd have to see how they're used.	10	11.24%
Voters: 89. You may not vote on this poll

10-1-2009, 10:42 PM	#21
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: Mines in KeyBeat mines are nice as long as they are properly used.

10-1-2009, 10:44 PM	#22
TC_llama499 Resident Rock Climber Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Age: 33 Posts: 1,573	Re: Mines in KeyBeat yes on mines __________________

10-1-2009, 10:55 PM	#23
stargroup FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 974	Re: Mines in KeyBeat wow 50/50 are you guys TRYING to do something here? well it's not gonna work I'm implementing dis sh*t __________________ (´･ω･`)

10-1-2009, 11:06 PM	#25
[TeRa] FFR Player Join Date: May 2007 Age: 33 Posts: 9,922	Re: Mines in KeyBeat flash version of sm

10-1-2009, 11:25 PM	#27
emulord FFR Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 778	Re: Mines in KeyBeat I prefer the boo system to mines. Extra hits should always be punished. I also dont like the "boom" sound from stepmania. If I hit a mine, it screws me up for the next pile of notes. I know I could probably change that, but whatever. If you're afraid of mashing, dont worry. I tried and the 6 keys make mashing nearly impossible (more boos compared to notes hit). All in all, mines make stepfiles less fun imo. So, my vote is a definite NO to mines, not the "not really" I was allowed to pick.

10-1-2009, 11:37 PM	#28
ChiefOlukOneHand FFR Player Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 46	Re: Mines in KeyBeat I don't understand how mines would make a difference. I mean, 1) boos take the place of mines in all cases, 2) if I hold a key down for too long, my keyboard starts to repeat the key (automatic mine), 3) mines were designed to force dancers to move their feet; how hard is it to move your fingers? And how long do you leave your finger on the key, anyway? I suppose mines could be used for distraction, which can be a valid addition, but I'm simply not seeing anything else. __________________

10-2-2009, 12:11 AM	#30
Ghakimx Cutie&Handshaking Sounds Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Xingapore Posts: 1,594	Re: Mines in KeyBeat No no no no. I never liked the usage of mines. They can be a serious problem/distraction, especially if EVERY level has them. Other rhythm games also never had them, even DDR, but in this case, Beatmania. Also, mines don't make sense within this context. Maybe bombs, but not mines. __________________ I AM ASHAMED OF MY STUPIDITY AND MUST COMMIT SEPPUKU. FORGIVE ME, FFR. Ninjas NEVER die. Now on a 30 kill streak.

10-2-2009, 12:24 AM	#32
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: Mines in KeyBeat actually you can trigger a mine without hitting a boo b/c mines are triggered by held keys not by taps i.e. if you hit a note, hold that finger and a mine passes through that column you get a mine hit without getting a boo __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

10-2-2009, 12:56 AM	#34
Ghakimx Cutie&Handshaking Sounds Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Xingapore Posts: 1,594	Re: Mines in KeyBeat Whoops, lol. I was dragged to the latest post, so I forgot to read the first. Though even if my vote was removed, the results are still the same. At least for now. __________________ I AM ASHAMED OF MY STUPIDITY AND MUST COMMIT SEPPUKU. FORGIVE ME, FFR. Ninjas NEVER die. Now on a 30 kill streak.

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