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08-25-2023, 05:41 AM | #1 |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
I... pretty much nailed my gut read on ToonE
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08-25-2023, 11:48 AM | #2 | |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
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08-25-2023, 05:55 AM | #3 |
Snivy! Dohoho!
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
Honda say it here
This setup is cool. However, I think FFRTWG is severely underwhelming to play it properly. Too many inactives and new players. No offense |
08-25-2023, 04:14 PM | #4 | |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
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we're always glad newer players are playing, ofc when sven proposed this setup to me, I was immediately very worried that it would have this problem and a bit more, but I'm glad we got a game out of it, even if it feels like there was more game to be played
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08-25-2023, 06:11 AM | #5 | |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
i fucking knew Xel would kill me lmfao
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08-25-2023, 06:15 AM | #6 |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
Anyway, I won't take away from the wolves victory because they did very well but a lot of this game came down to town playing poorly and getting poor results for it
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08-25-2023, 06:19 AM | #7 | |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
nvm it was Raeko
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08-25-2023, 08:19 AM | #8 |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
I remember some people saying that they won't sign up because they want more new players, so I ended up signing up. But I hope I wasn't too inactive!
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08-25-2023, 09:47 AM | #9 | |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
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But it screamed new player, hahaha AND you were a wolf. I would've probably never suspected you. |
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08-25-2023, 11:38 AM | #10 | |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
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When lar mentioned Raeko I jumped on it. I knew it was Mellon_Collie, but if I pretended I didn't know and one of us was found out then it made the other less likely to be suspected. At least, that had been my logic lol. I unfortunately can't do that ever again though. |
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08-25-2023, 09:51 PM | #11 |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
You're gonna be a deadly player in a few games if you keep rolling with these peeps... I'm calling it now. Keep signing up for games!
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08-25-2023, 09:29 AM | #12 |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
Edited in player evaluations in post #2!
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08-25-2023, 09:57 AM | #13 |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
For those curious:
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08-25-2023, 12:22 PM | #14 |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
That post probably comes off as angrier then I would ever be over post game criticism but like
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08-25-2023, 12:25 PM | #15 |
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08-25-2023, 04:29 PM | #16 |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
after seeing the game play out, I think town really did make a big mistake by killing no one on the first day
it feels like less of a mistake than it basically ever has been to kill no one, so there's that at least I'd probably feel tempted to do it myself, because the chance of the game just ending because of a millium claim would undo a lot of sven's efforts and that would fill me with a kind of guilt or remorse
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08-25-2023, 07:21 PM | #17 |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
your read was on something that shouldn't have been in the thread in the first place, because ciphers don't belong in TWG. I am CERTAINLY not accusing anyone of using ciphers for anything other than good, clean fun. But its something where I would rather draw the line much, much earlier than any place where the lines could be muddied or something. The talk of ciphers was, honestly, positively impacting the game, so I can accept that stepping in and saying something was a negative for the game, but I would argue that it is a fairly necessary one for game integrity.
-------------------------------------------------------------- ahhhhh, I see where the confusion happens for OOTC games, this is good to have this now rather than later so I know what to do for the wording of the rule. Copy/pasting has been traditionally legal in OOTC games, I kinda really don't like that rule personally, but it should be up to the mod. This is the exception, rather than the rule, and its why you remember Trailer Park Boys the way you do. Rule 2 of FFRTWG: 2) A player may not post their role PM, in part or in full, or any other communication they may have had with the host. Threatening to post your PM is not allowed. A player may not make reference to any communication they may have had with the host. You may not post, in part or in full, any part of any private conversation you may have had (wolfchat or masonchat). All of the above refers to quoting directly using the forum feature, posting a screenshot or screenshots, attempting to determine alignments by asking someone how their PM was worded, etc. HOWEVER, it is contrasted with rule 2a 2a) Players ARE however, allowed to post private conversations with other players, so long as the rules of the game permit this (In game where Out of Thread communication is legal). It is also legal to produce fake conversations. ------------------------------ this is, confusing, I can see that now. What is a masonchat, or a jailorchat, other than a discussion with another player? This will be remedied before the next game begins. If you (or anyone) has any suggestions for how to make this distinction clearer, I'd love to hear it.
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08-25-2023, 09:20 PM | #18 | ||
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
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If we're changing that moving forward, that doesn't change this game's use of it or it's context. Quote:
BUT I get some setups this isn't gonna fly, so we should handle it like the other rules and just have the host turn it on and off. So by default, it's how you describe it: no sharing, period, of host made and monitored chats. That makes OOTC sharing on by default without any other work. Then we just make a rule that overrides it Something like "Information Share" or whatever. No pics, but otherwise sharing is on (it's important to me that it still be possible to fake the logs for the majority of players, The way I think you feel about ciphers is how I feel about letting town provide hard evidence about their PMs/Logs So then in sign ups it's easy to tell where we sit Insta Lynch: On KitB: On Phantoms: Off OOTC: On Info Share: Off |
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08-25-2023, 11:45 PM | #19 | |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
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yeah, charu and any number more of wolves COULD have faked that jailor chat but like... cmon there does need to be a balance when you're asking: one side to spend 5 seconds copy and pasting a legit document MAYBE editing some stuff out the way Charu would've edited out stuff about his role versus literal HOURS and HOURS of work and something as small as using a space before a question mark or not could out that the log is fake because Haku types in an extremely specific way its just not fair its a clear imbalance and I think there's not a great way to get it to work well within the confines of the game
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08-26-2023, 11:32 AM | #20 |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
I mean if you feel that way, keep information share off. If a host feels different they can switch it on and people can either sign up knowing the risk or decline not wanting any part of it.
But yeah, if you word the base, default rule as "Host made or moderated chats" you should have the exact rule you described before written in a concise, none interpretive way. EDIT actually the rules should probably have a mock game setup that showcases and explains what the default rules are, so that if signups fail to address it the mods know exactly what ruleset to fall back on and no one can claim there wasn't precedent. EDIT EDIT: this isn't what we're talking about but Phantoms should be on by default Last edited by MixMasterLar; 08-26-2023 at 11:36 AM.. |
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