Breakcore anybody?

[danny53x]

I rarely post on the musician's forum and I don't know how things are run here, but could I get some honest critique on a 5/4 time signature breakcore drum loop? Try not to be biased.

I was inspired by Venetian Snares' Swindon which is in a 7/4 time signature. Over the past year I've really got a knack for complex time signatures but I never really tried to incorporate them into the stuff I make. Here's a shot at 5/4... just for reference you might know the theme song to the well known movie "Halloween". It's composed in 5/4. So, just tell me what you think of it and whether or not you think I should expand upon this style or maybe it's just not my thing.

I submitted it as a song rather than a loop because it was more than half a minute. The song's called Nen.

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/207281

I could always add synths, but it doesn't really matter. I made this in an hour or so.

[Mans0n]

It's alright, sounds nothing like V snares though lol.
I couldint make a decent drum break if my life depended on it.

[ooobl.]

I thought it was pretty cool. Thought I wouldn't call it breakcore, breakcore is usually much faster and harder e.g. Ladyscraper. 5/4 is pretty cool though, I know it's pretty hard to play in from experience so it must be tough to make something coherent in it.

[l Endorphin l]

Breakbeat = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk-FFrfE0kk
Breakcore = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0wj76YObNI and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNfXotaFnjo

As you can see Breakbeat doesn't have the heavy distortion in the break/percussion and is usually slower.

I would call this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBDAunPkSAY breakbeat too.

As for your song. as far as automation goes you got that pretty well. And twit could write in 5/4 or 7/8 and nobody would notice.
When you get into weird signature you'll notice that people, since they can't "bob their head to it without looking like they are having a seizure". They won't even pay attention to the time signature.

Unless you are writing something like DM Azhura's Seven...You don't have a choice there.

My only problem with the song is that it didn't go anywhere, it didn't have something to look forward to.
I would work on that, or, if you want to stick with the just drums thing, I would layer them.
Like...check out that aphex video I posted up there, his drums are layered like crazy, it really adds all of the frequencies you need to make the song sound full.

[danny53x]

Thanks for the feedback. I've only layered anything like once in my life, so I looked it up and didn't realize how much there was to it. And true, I guess it is more along the lines of a breakbeat.

Here's one of my favorite 5/4 pieces
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOZ0x7LtUok

[sleeplessdragn]

I don't know I feel like time signature is useful only entirely for the composer. I can imagine having some very interesting cross time signature melodies evolving in that fashion. I figure if you are really insane you can still beat your track to have a 4/4 feel but organized entirely at your own will. Of course, it's much easier to do this while actually in 4/4 time.

Spent a day or two messing around with 7/4 beats a while back ago:
klare's warmup

[warriormag17]

hey, that "warmup" was actually pretty good. Why dont you continue it?