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Old 01-4-2021, 05:50 PM   #1
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Default upgrade keyboard?

if you want to play ffr hardcore/competively..
you need to buy a cheap thin keyed, usb keyboard, that has a good clock rate.
or, if you're using a stock computer
you need to focus on hitting the keys lightly, while maintaining speed and accuracy, because if you're hitting the keys really hard, it WILL damage the wiring in your hardware (NOT GOOD)
at difficulties of 50 or less, anything is OK. nothing is really giving you an edge over anything else, but higher than that... you need to consider using external USB keyboards, and tapping lightly with thin keys to increase your performance and not damage your board.
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Old 01-4-2021, 08:34 PM   #2
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if you want to play ffr hardcore/competively..
you need to buy a cheap thin keyed, usb keyboard, that has a good clock rate.
or, if you're using a stock computer
you need to focus on hitting the keys lightly, while maintaining speed and accuracy, because if you're hitting the keys really hard, it WILL damage the wiring in your hardware (NOT GOOD)
at difficulties of 50 or less, anything is OK. nothing is really giving you an edge over anything else, but higher than that... you need to consider using external USB keyboards, and tapping lightly with thin keys to increase your performance and not damage your board.
Your highest AAA is a 34, and an SDG on a 55. You have zero idea what you're talking about, and even then, what you're saying is fairly false.
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Old 01-4-2021, 09:15 PM   #3
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You have zero idea what you're talking about, and even then, what you're saying is fairly false.
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Old 01-4-2021, 09:55 PM   #4
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if you want to play ffr hardcore/competively..
you need to buy a cheap thin keyed, usb keyboard, that has a good clock rate.
or, if you're using a stock computer
you need to focus on hitting the keys lightly, while maintaining speed and accuracy, because if you're hitting the keys really hard, it WILL damage the wiring in your hardware (NOT GOOD)
at difficulties of 50 or less, anything is OK. nothing is really giving you an edge over anything else, but higher than that... you need to consider using external USB keyboards, and tapping lightly with thin keys to increase your performance and not damage your board.
how cheap are we talkin, what kb's do you have in mind o.o I'm game!

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Old 01-4-2021, 11:37 PM   #5
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Default Re: Do I need to upgrade my keyboard?

I haven't played actively on FFR since the last Tourney. Since then, I have upgraded to a Roccat Soura, I haven't done much testing with it playing FFR.
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Old 01-5-2021, 12:18 AM   #6
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To be fully honest, i would focus more on building your fundamentals and skills up more before upgrading. The KB doesn't make the player, that's a common misconception for people to fall into.

You can totally get much better than where you are with what you consider to be a shitty keyboard, just gotta put in the work
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Old 01-5-2021, 12:34 AM   #7
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To be fully honest, i would focus more on building your fundamentals and skills up more before upgrading. The KB doesn't make the player, that's a common misconception for people to fall into.

You can totally get much better than where you are with what you consider to be a shitty keyboard, just gotta put in the work
1. I kind of summed up that I have an upgrade in my post prior to this. I'm no longer inquiring about a new keyboard.

2. I'm not asking for advice on how to improve my current skill-level.

3. I'm slowly been improving, I placed Top 8 in Division 1 in the last two Official Tournaments.

4. I never said that the K200 Classic was a "Shitty" keyboard. PLEASE, don't put words in my mouth.

5. If you looked at my streaks of concurrent gameplay when I was most recently active(Before and up to the last Official Tournament), you'd see that I was playing for multiple hours DAILY.

6. I assumed this was a dead thread until someone bumped it, recently.
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Old 01-5-2021, 12:35 AM   #8
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how cheap are we talkin, what kb's do you have in mind o.o I'm game!
i dunno, since i just use old laptops to play, carefully, and they still break eventually on the hard songs.. but i would recommend external keyboards to save you from that fate, and not destroy a laptop
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To be fully honest, i would focus more on building your fundamentals and skills up more before upgrading.
yes. play all songs up until difficulty 60, to the best of your ability. then you would consider optimizing your keyboard 'loadout'
and i know a lot of y'all don't like it, but thin keys are gonna be better than thick for this game.
die-hard players also should consider switching their spreads sometimes, from ASDF to ZXCV, or QWOP to DFJK, or RTYU to CVBN, whatever the case may be, to deter the degredation of the input wires
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I assumed this was a dead thread until someone bumped it, recently.
Still got some life left. over-analyzing little nuances of this simple game is what we do.
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Old 01-5-2021, 08:44 AM   #9
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This thread has been beaten to death. Time for it to die.
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Old 01-5-2021, 12:01 PM   #10
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Mech keyboard allowed me to AAA jack files like Club/Aim Anthem more easily. Actuation also gave me a bit more control, but speedwise it's mostly up to yourself.
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Old 01-6-2021, 03:53 AM   #11
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I agree with some of Travis_Flesher's points and want to add that you should also make sure to hit light so you don't cause your keyboard to move and slide around while you play, which will make your accuracy worse as your hands aren't used to the positioning. Also I have a FC on a 107.

Let's be respectful of other people's opinions though in future posts. Not gonna name any names.

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Old 01-6-2021, 10:19 AM   #12
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make sure to hit light so you don't cause your keyboard to move and slide around while you play, which will make your accuracy worse as your hands aren't used to the positioning.
I smash keys and my keyboard sliding around was a problem for me. My solution has been to use a chunk of rubber-like shelf liner underneath my keyboard. Same trick for a cutting board.
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Old 01-6-2021, 07:37 PM   #13
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I'm going to operate under the assumption you aimed this at me, since name-dropping is probably out of your repertoire.
Considering you haven't offered any helpful advice at the time of this post, this assumption is poorly established that he aimed it at you, as is the following assumption that he would name drop you considering Since Guitarman literally quoted Cammy and not you as well earlier, I'd say that if Guitarman wanted to direct his comment to you in any fashion, the evidence points that he would have done so.

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Yeah it's condescending, everything he said is absolutely false, and using his scores to support that he has no idea what type of recommendations to give is the correct course to take as it supports my statement that as someone with significantly better scores and achievements, I actually have a fair idea what I'd be talking about if I'd offered any advice other than "his take is bad."
This follow up paragraph of yours indicates you could be talking about Cammy, or Travis. In the case of travis you undermine any advice he has to offer because of his skill, though he offers good advice in "focus on hitting the keys lightly" which is solid valid advice for the longevity of your keyboard, as well as it being perfectly reasonable advice for your maintenance of stamina during gameplay. His advice about buying a keyboard with a good clock rate is also good advice, though he did not recommend; even when asked, what specific keyboard to purchase.

In the case of if your follow up paragraph here is in reference to Cammy's advice is bad, and you think that she doesn't have the skill to make a recommendation I'd argue she does and she did give good advice.

THEREFORE
This post of yours that I have quoted, does the following:
2 poorly thoughtout assumptions back to back.
Does not add any helpful advice to the neccesity or lack there-of for a keyboard upgrade.
Does not attempt to explain why or whose advice is bad.
And based on the statement "Everything he said is absolutely false" in conjunction with the pre established message being possibly directed at Travis or Cammy, I'm inclined to believe that I should in fact, per this quoted statement, look for an expensive keyboard, with a very bad clock rate, bang my keyboard roughly, and not work on my fundamentals for gameplay.

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Old 01-6-2021, 11:11 PM   #14
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Considering you haven't offered any helpful advice at the time of this post, this assumption is poorly established that he aimed it at you, as is the following assumption that he would name drop you considering Since Guitarman literally quoted Cammy and not you as well earlier, I'd say that if Guitarman wanted to direct his comment to you in any fashion, the evidence points that he would have done so.


This follow up paragraph of yours indicates you could be talking about Cammy, or Travis. In the case of travis you undermine any advice he has to offer because of his skill, though he offers good advice in "focus on hitting the keys lightly" which is solid valid advice for the longevity of your keyboard, as well as it being perfectly reasonable advice for your maintenance of stamina during gameplay. His advice about buying a keyboard with a good clock rate is also good advice, though he did not recommend; even when asked, what specific keyboard to purchase.

In the case of if your follow up paragraph here is in reference to Cammy's advice is bad, and you think that she doesn't have the skill to make a recommendation I'd argue she does and she did give good advice.

THEREFORE
This post of yours that I have quoted, does the following:
2 poorly thoughtout assumptions back to back.
Does not add any helpful advice to the neccesity or lack there-of for a keyboard upgrade.
Does not attempt to explain why or whose advice is bad.
And based on the statement "Everything he said is absolutely false" in conjunction with the pre established message being possibly directed at Travis or Cammy, I'm inclined to believe that I should in fact, per this quoted statement, look for an expensive keyboard, with a very bad clock rate, bang my keyboard roughly, and not work on my fundamentals for gameplay.
1. Your reading comprehension needs work. Read his post again.
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For future posts, let's not bash each other about Personal Scores or give advice unless asked for. It comes across as condescending.
Cammy's post doesn't do these these things. Mine arguably does. I specifically target a skill level, and give advice about how he should be ignored unprompted.
2. I'll accept the latter half of your sentence is fine. But I in no way target Cammy. Denote the "he" and how Cammy is female, according to their profile, and I know they prefer feminine pronouns. It's so clearly not aimed at Cammy. I'm a dick, but I don't mis-pronoun people on purpose. You even proceed to say "she" in the rest of your post, so I actually don't comprehend the reason you thought I went in that direction at all.

Which makes reading the rest of your post, pointless.
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