New Veteran Status - Opinions?

[RawrInc]

I have no interest in the game so i'll never get vet status...but I don't care.

[DotKritic]

Just do a Vet Status for the site.

Forum Vet: 5k posts 5 years
Game Vet: whatever it is right now
FFR Vet: Combo of Game and Forum Vet

PS. Still waiting on my Forum Vet status.

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by RawrInc

I have no interest in the game so i'll never get vet status...but I don't care.

What about ffr are you interested in then?

[devonin]

Or instead of harping over what the word 'veteran' means in the context of places that aren't here, you can consider that in the same way that FFR Elite Supporters wern't actually in any way elite, and realise that it just happens to be the word we picked.

The difficulty is in striking a balance between rewarding people who have been here a long time, and people who are very dedicated in a way that still acknowledges the alternative.

There are 5+ year people who're not actually at all active. The score requirement tries to address that. There are <2 year people who play for hours and hours a day. The GTS requirement tries to address that.

If there were a "Time spent logged in" counter for account age, I'd be all for using that, but no such thing exists.

[devonin]

Originally Posted by DotKritic

Just do a Vet Status for the site.

Forum Vet: 5k posts 5 years
Game Vet: whatever it is right now
FFR Vet: Combo of Game and Forum Vet

PS. Still waiting on my Forum Vet status.

You meet none of the veteran requirements. You'll be waiting a while.

[Plan_Bsk81127]

Originally Posted by TheSaxRunner05

The trouble with only having a join date requirement is inactive accounts can be veterans while people with 5 or 6 billion points could still not qualify. I think the 3 billion mark is a little low. How about a requirement to be in the top 1,000 in overall rank (right now around 4.7 billion) to be a veteran, or 3 years?

hence why the requirement requires you to have both, not one or the other.

[DotKritic]

Originally Posted by devonin

You meet none of the veteran requirements. You'll be waiting a while.

With this account, no.

[OSean]

wat?

[devonin]

Originally Posted by DotKritic

With this account, no.

Too bad your other accounts are all permabanned?

[~HentaiXXX~]

My only complaint is that my e-dick doesn't get bigger from being a veteran.

Can this be fixed pl0x?

[Mulie]

All things considered, how could anyone possibly think a hard time requirement for veteran status is a good idea? Words can't express my astonishment.

[whiteflame]

Originally Posted by Izzy

What about ffr are you interested in then?

At one point and time the forums, but mostly the VC.

[MrGiggles]

itt we slowly discover that nothing will satisfy everyone and in fact it's possible that no one will ever be satisfied by anything

[TomatoShadow]

I'm satisfied with the current system. It's a nice idea to give the subscriber privileges to people who have been there for a while.

[Mulie]

Originally Posted by TomatoShadow

I'm satisfied with the current system. It's a nice idea to give the subscriber privileges to people who have been there for a while.

I strongly disagree. The current requirements are unsatisfactory. Three billion GTS is too easy of a requirement alone and 3 years is too long a wait for otherwise active people.

The main reason you're satisfied is that under the current system, you qualify! The list of people that don't, yet deserve to, just keeps growing. VanillaMnm, Leonid, devonin... ME. I mean, my old account almost qualifies, and I sucked back then. This account won't qualify for over a year. And countless inactive users do almost qualify, just because they made their accounts earlier. Just a bit of activity on their end and those privileges would be theirs.

Furthermore, don't you think a postcount requisite as high as 500 or 1000 per "point" toward Vet status would be a little off-putting to the average forum spammer? Said hypothetical spammers won't need to be told about Vet. They'd spam anyway. And what are mods for?

You'd think these things would be conventionally understood... but no, if there's anything I've learned here, it's that if you want to be your opinion to be heard in such a thread the same points must be reiterated relentlessly until every respectable participant is satisfied.

Originally Posted by Mulie

Going by his suggestion you need 7 years, and
1 year = 1 billion GTS = 1000 posts

Though I think this is a little better:
1 year = 2 billion GTS = 500 posts

What really got to me were Rubix's posts. Even though he was trolling. He was trolling.

[jchinzilla]

im worthless...i don't deserve such high honors as a flashflashrevolution vet

[who_cares973]

u'll never amount to anything with a mindset like that at the age of 13!!

[jchinzilla]

i don't care i just want to insulate myself from the world so nothing bad will happen to me ever again

e: ...sorry that's my post traumatic stress disorder talking. i've seen too many unspeakable things as a veteran...

[TC_Halogen]

How about coming up with a point system that can combine each and every aspect together so that having a portion of all three can satisfy the veteran requirement?

ex: obtain 4,500 points

forum post: +1 for every two posts
account length: +750 per year
game: +1 per every 5,000,000 gts

etc.

basically, the point I'm trying to make is, a user can obtain veteran status by using two aspects, rather than just a single one

Let's use wc (who happened to be at the end of page 8 and because he's my b*tch so I'll do it anyway :3)

Account length: 4.27 (x 750) ~ 3,201
GTS: 11,337,198,895 (÷ 5,000,000) ~ 2,267
Forum Posts: 9,190 (÷ 2) = 4,595

in this case, you have a user who's been active (4.27 years), shows that they have a great interest in the game (11 bil GTS), and they are extremely active in the community (albeit a bit trolly). However, their continued interest in the site has racked them enough points to be a veteran more than twice over (10,063).

I can already see people complaining about the system because they choose not to do one of the few things, but the way that I see it - if you haven't been on the site long, why should you be considered? If you don't play the game a lot, why should you be considered? If you can't be bothered to jump in the community, why should you be considered? Forcing two different requirements to be partially attained rather than a single one assures users getting rewarded for what they do, whether it be an active poster in the community or an active player.

[Reincarnate]

It comes down to "What kind of people do we want to reward?"

1. People who play the game
2. People who've been here a long time
3. People who interact with the community

I see no reason to reward #3. Some people play the game consistently for a long time but don't really post much. When you consider what Veteran status awards you, why hold those functionalities back from someone who just happens to not be a part of the community?