Amateur FFR Scores!

[MopeyJoe]

Originally Posted by rushyrulz

:/ What's with the <50 on VC and FMO scores? Those don't go here.

Where do they go and how was I supposed to know that?

[YoshL]

if you can get a <50 VC, then you're considered not-amateur usually. :P

I wish i could get that >_>

[Plan_Bsk81127]

Seems these rules are too complicated for people to understand, just go post in the other thread and there wouldnt be this problem.

[bmah]

Ehh, it's a fine line (tentative rules posted on first post). What I said in the previous page:

Originally Posted by bmah

the rules for the thread were too rigid and didn't acknowledge the fact that the boundary between "amateur" and "pro" is indeed a blurry one. Anyone can post a level 10 and up score and it can still be "amateur" depending on their results. I'd say it's best just to make your call and point out only really ridiculous scores as opposed to getting antsy over whether someone treaded past the line or not.

I think <50 is still a large margin. I'd say <10 goods on VCs and <30 goods on FMOs may be better off in the other thread. Even so, everyone has a different definition of "pro", so I suggested to only point out really ridiculous stuff. <50 doesn't cut it IMO. And it's hard to enforce such a rule - as simple as it seems. I know this thread seems to be continuously having its purpose defeated, but realistically, this is as good as it'll get. People shouldn't be "policing" this thread all that much.


@Mopey: The original thread where scores were posted is here. This was where all scores went, but recently, there has been a lot of very good scores that has flooded that thread. People with less than stunning scores were overshadowed by the other scores, and they wanted recognition, so an amateur thread was made. It's up to you, but by comparing what scores other people get, try placing them in the appropriate thread.

This thread was mainly created to give amateurs recognition, but if you actually don't care about recognition all too much, might as well place your scores in the original thread.

[MopeyJoe]

AHH! WHY DIDN'T I SAVE THIS REPLAY?!


Around 30 attempts just to get a screen shot...

[YoshL]

Originally Posted by MopeyJoe

Around 30 attempts just to get a screen shot...

*ignores rules*

Heh... first post really says it all mopey.

Anyways...

Best 9 just happened. :<

[rushyrulz]

<10 on a VC is pretty beast bmah.

Originally Posted by This thread's OP

Rules to posting in this thread:
-Only scores to Challenging songs and BELOW are looked kindly upon in this thread.
-Any songs above Challenging are not to be posted in this thread. However, those scores that thou get bitched at for because thou is clearly too experienced for this here thread, is more than welcomed in the FFR Scores thread.

Happy FFRing!!

Please^

no FMO should be posted here period.

[bmah]

yeah I think <10 for most VCs is sort of the beast line in which you end up in the other thread

And as I said, don't need to waste time trying to constantly enforce the rules. I'm pretty sure those who do are the only people who are actually unhappy in this thread lmao. Tbh, it only breaks the flow of this thread. I've yet to see anybody complain in this thread for lack of recognition.

[HoneyMelonCalibrator]

[This score was removed by the Amateur FFR Scores! Thread Police]

[ichliebekase]

If we're going for <30 on FMO's too then I'd still be posting in here with my 33-0-0-3 on Demon Fire >.> I agree that FMO's shouldn't be posted in here at all, especially if they're non-mashed FC's.

[bmah]

I'd focus more on people's overall satisfaction with this thread as opposed to seeing how closely one can scrutinize people's scores. afaik, only the rule-makers are making a big fuss.

What do I see?

- people posting true amateur scores here seem to be fine and complementing others within his or her skill range; they aren't worrying about other people in this thread who are not within their skill range
- others posting decent scores that's above amateur and are confused when someone explicitly points out the rules (but refer to first point)
- rule-enforcers worrying to death about...rules. (but refer to first point)

And look at the posts below vvvv

As you can see, strictly enforcing the rules creates unnecessary confusion that can easily be prevented.

[Gansler]

Oh.
Well then.
Got it.

[MopeyJoe]

Ugh, that pic I posted, too good for this thread, but I don't think it's good enough for the normal thread.

[Gansler]

I mean, I still consider myself to be an amateur.

[MopeyJoe]

I wouldn't consider myself an amateur, but I wouldn't call myself a pro either. I'm right in between the two, a semi-pro or pro-am. Something like that.

[Plan_Bsk81127]

Its kinda stupid people have to hop between two threads with their scores, make things easier, stick to the main thread.

[rushyrulz]

Originally Posted by bmah

I'd focus more on people's overall satisfaction with this thread as opposed to seeing how closely one can scrutinize people's scores. afaik, only the rule-makers are making a big fuss.

What do I see?

- people posting true amateur scores here seem to be fine and complementing others within his or her skill range; they aren't worrying about other people in this thread who are not within their skill range
- others posting decent scores that's above amateur and are confused when someone explicitly points out the rules (but refer to first point)
- rule-enforcers worrying to death about...rules. (but refer to first point)

Without rules, this thread ceases to have a purpose. Just trying to keep the scores from getting into 10s then into 11s, then soon enough becoming FFR Scores v2.

[Gansler]

Or we could just not post FMO+ scores in here. I mean, the thread itself is a good idea as long as the rules are kept to.

[bmah]

@Rushy: refer to earlier quote:

Originally Posted by bmah

I know this thread seems to be continuously having its purpose defeated, but realistically, this is as good as it'll get. People shouldn't be "policing" this thread all that much.

So yeah, you have to be realistic about the issue. It's ideal to have all scores fit within the rules, but it's difficult to enforce. All I'm saying is to lax a bit on telling people what scores they can and cannot post. Just point out anything that's really out of bounds. You can "roughly" contain certain types of scores within this thread, but you cannot do so with definitive accuracy.

It's either this or you can come to the realistic but unfortunate conclusion that this thread never really had productive results. When it comes to satisfaction however, nearly everyone is satisfied except the rule enforcers. (@Hazelle: really, the hassle is only amongst the rule enforcers and the confused members of whom they direct their authority to)

Anyhow, I'm derailing this thread myself, so that's all I'll say.

@Mopey: yeah, that simplification is way easier to enforce, as opposed to a general range that someone made up based on their idea of what an "amateur" is

[MopeyJoe]

This is what I have to say - anything less than a AAA/Blackflag/Rainbow flag on a VC song goes here. Mainly because all the scores I see on the main thread are usually <10 on FGO songs.