NotFFRon - Page 72

**qqwref** · 01-12-2011, 05:57 PM

I think it'll come back to life once it gets finished up, and the tokens are implemented, and it's finally posted on the front page and stickied.

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Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

most people aren't capable of thinking enough to go really far into the game.

More likely: most people aren't patient enough to spend several hours trying to think of new ways to interpret a clue until they hit on the right one, and don't have friends who they want to work through the puzzles with.

**TC_Halogen** · 01-12-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by qqwref

...don't have friends who they want to work through the puzzles with.

Well, that's essentially what I'm getting at. I didn't mean that they can't do it (I probably should edit my post because it makes me sound like a prick), it's more so because they're struggling and don't have anyone to turn to for help. Others just don't want to go through the entire game because it's incredibly tedious.

**potter_rocks_out_loud** · 01-12-2011, 07:59 PM

I just started, and I'm stuck on 4.....

**Reincarnate** · 01-12-2011, 08:12 PM

IMO a good riddle site needs to really ease up on the difficulty gradients. You have to make the first 10-20 levels piss-easy and full of handholding. Only then should you start to deviate a bit from the rails.

**TC_Halogen** · 01-12-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Reincarnate

IMO a good riddle site needs to really ease up on the difficulty gradients. You have to make the first 10-20 levels piss-easy and full of handholding. Only then should you start to deviate a bit from the rails.

When I was working on the concept of a puzzle game on DF - the initial tutorial was up to the 9th level of the game. I never went out of my way to make the images or anything, but since it's the "trendy" thing to do, I might go about it.

Then again, I'll probably get shot down because I will either be too obscure, or too uncreative. The only way to get better is to try, though!

**Reincarnate** · 01-12-2011, 08:19 PM

The other problem with riddle sites is that when you get stuck, you get stuck. If a player can't figure it out in a sufficient time frame, they'll enter CBFmode and never come back to play again.

The alternative is to invoke something that I plan on doing if I ever get around to making a riddle site of my own.

**TC_Halogen** · 01-12-2011, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Reincarnate

The other problem with riddle sites is that when you get stuck, you get stuck. If a player can't figure it out in a sufficient time frame, they'll enter CBFmode and never come back to play again.

The alternative is to invoke something that I plan on doing if I ever get around to making a riddle site of my own.

Like me; I'm sitting at -25, and I'm very sure that I know how to do it, but the amount of effort to physically solve it is way too much for me to handle.

The inevitable truth is dropout can't be prevented, but nullifying it can be done through a few ways, like alternative levels coming through multiple possibilities from a single level. Different paths to the ending would take a little bit more effort because you'd need to add a few extra levels, but introducing multiple levels of thinking through two different puzzles on the same level could help get people through because of different interpretation.

leonid · 01-13-2011, 02:33 PM

ETA -18

@AJ try using notepad

**Zageron** · 01-13-2011, 02:41 PM

Still on -23. Maybe I should start giving a shit again. `.`

**i love you** · 01-13-2011, 02:48 PM

I still don't get -19 XD

**XCV** · 01-14-2011, 08:53 PM

12 I just did not get, I'm mathematically minded, and redtoblue I thought meant you had to switch red and blue.

13 and up are being piss easy.

24 had me stumped until I realized what "extract" meant

25 is just wtf, someone help me here

EDIT-MAH-EDIT: 25 was ruddy brilliant, mad props JS

**nois-or-e** · 01-18-2011, 06:50 PM

AJ -25 is surprisingly easy and doesn't take nearly as long as what you are assuming x:

**DossarLX ODI** · 01-18-2011, 10:04 PM

lol then try out NotRAGEon unless you already tempended or something xd

**Reincarnate** · 01-18-2011, 10:07 PM

You guys are all in for a real treat soon

**DossarLX ODI** · 01-18-2011, 10:51 PM

NotRUBIXon

NotBATDEDUCTIONon

**i love you** · 01-18-2011, 11:45 PM

**JenovaSephiroth** · 01-19-2011, 04:01 PM

Don't worry, I haven't forgotten about this. Now that I'm back on campus, I can do things, so yeah, expect -18 soon. I'm also starting to think of ideas for NotFFRon II, which will hopefully be more organized and more fair.

who_cares973 · 01-19-2011, 05:47 PM

Wait don't release -18 yet I haven't tempended D:

**Reincarnate** · 01-19-2011, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by who_cares973

Wait don't release -18 yet I haven't tempended D:

that's what she said

**Zageron** · 01-19-2011, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Reincarnate

that's what she said

ahaha haaaa xD

01-12-2011, 08:12 PM	#1424
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: NotFFRon IMO a good riddle site needs to really ease up on the difficulty gradients. You have to make the first 10-20 levels piss-easy and full of handholding. Only then should you start to deviate a bit from the rails.

01-12-2011, 08:19 PM	#1426
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: NotFFRon The other problem with riddle sites is that when you get stuck, you get stuck. If a player can't figure it out in a sufficient time frame, they'll enter CBFmode and never come back to play again. The alternative is to invoke something that I plan on doing if I ever get around to making a riddle site of my own.

01-13-2011, 02:33 PM	#1428
leonid I am leonid Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: MOUNTAIN VIEW Age: 35 Posts: 8,080	Re: NotFFRon ETA -18 @AJ try using notepad __________________ Proud member of Team No

01-13-2011, 02:41 PM	#1429
Zageron Zageron E. Tazaterra RRR Developer & DevOps Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: BC Age: 32 Posts: 6,586	Re: NotFFRon Still on -23. Maybe I should start giving a shit again. `.` __________________ Help Develop FFR

01-13-2011, 02:48 PM	#1430
i love you Live a wonderful life~ Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,313	Re: NotFFRon I still don't get -19 XD __________________ =============================== The idea that RDCP 3 may come out in the future is a fun thought to have~ ===============================

01-14-2011, 08:53 PM	#1431
XCV has nice tits Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 744	Re: NotFFRon 12 I just did not get, I'm mathematically minded, and redtoblue I thought meant you had to switch red and blue. 13 and up are being piss easy. 24 had me stumped until I realized what "extract" meant 25 is just wtf, someone help me here EDIT-MAH-EDIT: 25 was ruddy brilliant, mad props JS __________________ Last edited by XCV; 01-17-2011 at 08:32 PM..

01-18-2011, 06:50 PM	#1432
nois-or-e SponCon Aficionado Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: doot~ Age: 38 Posts: 3,250	Re: NotFFRon AJ -25 is surprisingly easy and doesn't take nearly as long as what you are assuming x: __________________

01-18-2011, 10:07 PM	#1434
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: NotFFRon You guys are all in for a real treat soon

01-18-2011, 11:45 PM	#1436
i love you Live a wonderful life~ Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,313	Re: NotFFRon ^^ __________________ =============================== The idea that RDCP 3 may come out in the future is a fun thought to have~ ===============================

01-19-2011, 04:01 PM	#1437
JenovaSephiroth pink dragon irl Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: pittsburgh Age: 34 Posts: 828	Re: NotFFRon Don't worry, I haven't forgotten about this. Now that I'm back on campus, I can do things, so yeah, expect -18 soon. I'm also starting to think of ideas for NotFFRon II, which will hopefully be more organized and more fair.

01-19-2011, 05:47 PM	#1438
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: NotFFRon Wait don't release -18 yet I haven't tempended D: __________________

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