Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

[Patashu]

Yo coolgamer

If you want another opinion, send me the files (any messenger works) and I'll tell you if I'd have rejected them or not.

[Zybanthia]

Originally Posted by jimerax

Zybanthia - It seems PR for minijacks and most 8ths/12ths are alright but felt some trills and runningmen don't fit the pitch (minor issues). Real problems for me are kinda underlayered 8th parts, also just putting random jumps on 8th melody is boring and they could be more fun. and fix the ending.

Yeah, I wanted to shoot myself when I realized I'd left those arrows at the end. I figured that the 8th jumps would get some criticism though, and rightly so, since they are kind of random. I'll remove them completely and layer to the drums instead.

[Tasselfoot]

patashu (and kommi): now that you're a judge... you shouldn't be taking files in and helping with pre-judging. i don't know how much of that blu and jx do leading up to a batch... but, really, to be unbiased you shouldn't be doing much of it at all.

[Patashu]

it's not a prejudging thing since I would be testing something sent in last batch, though :P

[-Barista-]

Originally Posted by Patashu

it's not a prejudging thing since I would be testing something sent in last batch, though :P

Trying to find loopholes I see.

[Patashu]

I know you're just being snide but he wouldn't have submitted it to the next batch anyway

edit: I'm going ahead and making a hard version of intense colors btw, it'll be 8-9ish
employed ancient kil technique of putting all snare hits on the right arrow to distinguish them from notes to the melody in this annoying part where it plays melodies like .xxx.xxxx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxx.xx.xxx and skips most of the red beats

[Zybanthia]

I like to put snare hits on the right as well, but I didn't know doing so was known as a technique of Kil's.

[Patashu]

I'm thinking in particular of kil's shudder, feldschlacht and I think badlands which have straight runs with snare hits on the right so they can be emphasized without making it jumpstream

only I'm doing it because it doesn't make jumpstream

[dore]

Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

patashu (and kommi): now that you're a judge... you shouldn't be taking files in and helping with pre-judging. i don't know how much of that blu and jx do leading up to a batch... but, really, to be unbiased you shouldn't be doing much of it at all.

Just my opinion which doesn't really count but there really isn't a problem with that, because a judge helping someone pre-batch will only help the person get the file accepted. It may not be unbiased in the technical sense of the term, but when a judge can look at a file on their own time and discuss the file with the author rather than trying to give an impression based on one playthrough it gives the judge a better understanding of the intentions of the stepartist and a better judgment overall.

I definitely became better when blu and I exchanged our files before every batch because I got a second opinion (one that counts) and also got to discuss simfile theeriez.

[operationstrawbarry]

Originally Posted by bluguerrilla

barry the file we received had a bpm of 160 or something iirc. It was like you reused the dwi or something. Not sure what happened there?

You absolutly dont have the right file and for whatever the **** reason, Im having a hard time zipping the correct file and showing the file as the authentic file instead of the reused dwi which should not be there nor was suppose to be there or was there in the first place because I deleted the steps and replaced it with the new file as well as the song.

This BS has been happening to me recently for some odd reason. So I zip my file into a zip file but when you play it, its another file for some reason and its not the right file (you basically witnessed it). Today Ive tried to remedy this situation and for some reason one time, the file turned into 60bpm. But it never is the right file. However, in my original catagory like for instance Operationstrawbarry Sim's, when you play it, its the right file. This predicament is hard to explain and is extremely frustrating escpecially with vista which it refuses you to put it into a folder and in order to do so, you must copy and paste it into the folder using my documents. So its like 3 extra BS steps.

ANyone have any suggestions? The only thing that I know is that I would have to redo the entire file using the original and mirror it onto dwi (perferrably from one of the packs since its obveious that it works). Sometimes that doesn't work either.

[Zybanthia]

If you're using Vista, you'd be wise not to put your Stepmania folder into program files because Vista does not allow changes to be written (at least, by the user) to anything within Program Files. If you feel you are making changes and they are disappearing before you, then this may be exactly the case.

I suggest moving Stepmania out of Program Files completely. Although this should only be an issue if you don't have admin privileges, I'd try it and see if it solves anything.

[dore]

If you have admin then you should be able to do whatever, it just takes an additional "are you sure you want to do this" step.

[Zybanthia]

For most things, but if I remember correctly, the folder virtualization happens with no warning whatsoever. What happens is Vista actually creates another folder somewhere and stores any changes made to files within Program Files there. But since the programs aren't reading from that directory, it's a pretty big waste of time.

Anyway, hate to derail this and turn it into a Vista thread; I hope you can get it sorted out Strawbarry.

[Djr Rap dancer]

Originally Posted by Zybanthia

I suggest moving Stepmania out of Program Files completely. Although this should only be an issue if you don't have admin privileges, I'd try it and see if it solves anything.

Vista will not delete SM completely.
You have to find trick and sometime Vista just **** top.

[bluguerrilla]

Yeah I fail to see how testing while you are a judge makes you biased, unless you can't separate what one file is from another and see the first file as what the file should be, in which case you will have trouble being unbiased at all.

I mean, I prejudged spitfire's rock^3 file and even made the cut but that didn't stop me from finding more mistakes and end up telling him collab.

Also, since the batch process takes so long it ends up taking half a year for a file that needs 2-3 iterations to get into the queue, which is plain retarded. It wouldn't be such an issue if the file testing thread ever got like 2-3 people that would really test files.


Also, sending a file that doesn't have any jumps yay.

[operationstrawbarry]

Originally Posted by Zybanthia

For most things, but if I remember correctly, the folder virtualization happens with no warning whatsoever. What happens is Vista actually creates another folder somewhere and stores any changes made to files within Program Files there. But since the programs aren't reading from that directory, it's a pretty big waste of time.

Anyway, hate to derail this and turn it into a Vista thread; I hope you can get it sorted out Strawbarry.

the permission bs is a very small problem. I dont really do much on SM anymore so it doesn't bother me at all, but the real problem is that when I zip my files to a zipfile, it doesn't register it as the file that I wanted but instead registers it as another file instead which is the previous Dwi that I used to construct my new file. Thats actually the main problem and wouldn't mind some feeback about that. Once I get that sorted out, I can send in the file thats haveing problems. Again. Blu knows what Im talking about since hes witnessed it. (still need some suggestions about this)

btw... I dont think you need to worry about the biasness of the judges considering on how strict the judgeing is. I dont think anyone really knows enough about each other to really play favorits.

[kommisar[os]]

Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

patashu (and kommi): now that you're a judge... you shouldn't be taking files in and helping with pre-judging. i don't know how much of that blu and jx do leading up to a batch... but, really, to be unbiased you shouldn't be doing much of it at all.

aite. however I certainly don't mind giving people advice on how to proceed with making a good simfile.

[Coolgamer]

The problem is I sent all my files to three respected members of the simfile community beforehand, and most were found to be acceptable.

I just feel increasingly frustrated at my attempts to get good independent music in the game.

(Although I will admit, the Die Barney Die one I sent sucked ass. I failed to run my normal quality control on it.)

[bluguerrilla]

Hey kommi did you ever step that Dr. Steel song, speaking of Coolgamer's permissions. : p

Coolgamer, since I'm not judging anymore will gladly help you with your file, granted I enjoy the song, as I can make that choice now... Just PM me a sendspace link or something.

[kommisar[os]]

o man i totally forgot about dr.steel lmao. next song i'm sending to ffr