Let the shutdown begin - Page 6

**Pseudo Enigma** · 10-1-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fission

fuck canada

get at me canadian fifferers

Fuck America
Let it default. Let Canada feel the repercussions too. Down with Western society. kekekekekekekekekekekekeke

edit: wtf is with my timing of posts and getting them on the top of pages

**PaperclipGames** · 10-1-2013, 03:09 PM

lol america

Choofers · 10-1-2013, 03:21 PM

surprisingly un-spun article for those who aren't up to speed

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/30/politi...l?c=homepage-t

mi40 · 10-1-2013, 03:26 PM

its good to be an asian living in america

**adlp** · 10-1-2013, 03:35 PM

everybody is retarded and it is depressing

**adlp** · 10-1-2013, 03:38 PM

harry reid is a piece of shit

Choofers · 10-1-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by adlp

everybody is retarded and it is depressing

if u wanna elaborate that'd be niec

Izzy · 10-1-2013, 03:43 PM

Nah, we are retarded. Deal with it.

**andy-o24** · 10-1-2013, 03:55 PM

Assassinating countries.

-o24

**smartdude1212** · 10-1-2013, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mi40

its good to be an asian living in america

Russia's great.

I love Russia.

Litodude · 10-1-2013, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Reincarnate

yeah but when you say stuff like

it's a little bit of a contradiction to what you're saying, and it confuses people who don't know any better

what's going on right now is nothing more than political theater. the markets aren't getting nailed by this or anything. the markets *CAN* if stuff drags on too long and shit hits the fan, but it's a low-probability event.

ok i guess i'll try to simplify:

so the reason why the gov't shut down is because the legislative branch couldn't decide* which discretionary programs to fund. discretionary programs contrast to mandatory programs. they wrote bills in the past the stated 'the gov't will shut down at this time unless u can figure something out, idiots" more or less. if you can't figure out what bills to pay, you're gonna be in a lot of debt right? so what they decided to do was shutdown part of the gov't to limit expenditures so that (in theory) no -MORE- debt can accrue while everything is shut down and you won't hit that detb ceiling. sounds dumb af right?

BUT WAIT A MINUTE LITODUDE, what is the debt ceiling? can't you just raise it? first the debt ceiling is honestly just an arbritrary number. and second, well ya, you can lol but it's already been does like 3 times since we got out of the '07/'08 recession. if u get into more debt, you're saying that someday you'll pay all of it off right? well what if you can't? then you're really in the fuccen hole, and maybe u can't climb out of this one.

* = the GOP (who control house and the senate aka legislative branch) said we are not going to pass bills to fund anything discretionary unless PPACA(obamacare) gets repealed. but sorry BRO, obamacare is fuccen LAW it's NOT going anywhere, you're an IDIOT tea-party crazy person. still, they wouldn't listen and here we are now

mi40 · 10-1-2013, 05:06 PM

this is why the govt should sponsor esports

top · 10-1-2013, 05:07 PM

serious question then..

who's to blame for this? i hear people blindly calling out Obama and idk if it's really his fault or not.

Litodude · 10-1-2013, 05:14 PM

as i mentioned earlier, it's everyone to blame:

obama for pushing for obamacare instead of pursuing big banks during his first term, and being black**

democrats for wanting to reelect obama during a republican controlled congress

republicans for letting a minority faction take control of everything

GOP for being fucking batshit insane and racist af

** i mean if you can't discern the psychosocial understanding that old white people still feel about blacks then that's where i really can't help u

**Arkuski** · 10-1-2013, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by top

serious question then..

who's to blame for this? i hear people blindly calling out Obama and idk if it's really his fault or not.

The Internet is filled with NEETs who largely support obama and his social programs, so they'll tell you it's the fault of the GOP.

If you get off the computer and talk to real people who pay real bills, the majority does not support Obamacare. Not at a computer, but if you need a source for that I can provide one.

Litodude · 10-1-2013, 05:18 PM

i am a real person that pays bills

i feel the same way about mandatory health insurance the same way i feel about mandatory vehicle insurance (and i bet in a couple years everyone else will too !!!2)

**Reincarnate** · 10-1-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Litodude

as i mentioned earlier, it's everyone to blame:

obama for pushing for obamacare instead of pursuing big banks during his first term, and being black**

democrats for wanting to reelect obama during a republican controlled congress

republicans for letting a minority faction take control of everything

GOP for being fucking batshit insane and racist af

** i mean if you can't discern the psychosocial understanding that old white people still feel about blacks then that's where i really can't help u

let me guess, when a girl gets raped, sometimes you argue "she was asking for it"?

**Arkuski** · 10-1-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Reincarnate

let me guess, when a girl gets raped, sometimes you argue "she was asking for it"?

I don't think that's related to the issue at hand

Litodude · 10-1-2013, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Reincarnate

let me guess, when a girl gets raped, sometimes you argue "she was asking for it"?

no what the fuck

how did you get into a premise about willing/unwilling rape and relate that to polisci??

yea fallacious comments like this are why you can't take anything seriously in fucking chitchat rofl jesus christ rubix

**Reincarnate** · 10-1-2013, 05:34 PM

I'll make it clearer for you so you can quit pretending to clutch at pearls:

you're blaming the dems (edit: in part) because "well, Obama is black, so he knew what he was getting into with these racist whites, and he was a democrat trying to get in during a republican-controlled congress... it's his own fault"

similar to the blame-logic of

"well that girl was hot and wasn't wearing much, so she knew what she was getting into with these guys... it's her own fault"

why not put the blame on the people actually causing the problem at hand rather than the "victim" for not being more tolerating (and permissive) of the external abuses?

this entire shutdown is attributable in fault to the tea party nutjobs and other factions of the GOP. people seem to forget that the ACA *was* a compromise from the outset (and the GOP was for it before they were against it). Now they're moving the goalposts yet again. They *already lost* countless times on this front and have to resort to threatening damage because they didn't get their way.

like Jon Stewart said, it's like a football team losing and then making threats if they aren't given points. this "both sides are at fault" false-equivalence bullshit solves nothing because it perpetuates a state of denial and hurts the national dialogue by diverting focus away from the source of the problem. Sometimes both parties *are* at fault. But in this case it's an extremely GOP-sided skew distribution, and the only way to argue to the contrary is to bend over backwards with mental gymnastics

View Poll Results: Who is the blame?
The Republicans	33	28.95%
The Democrats	2	1.75%
Both above	12	10.53%
President Obama	9	7.89%
Everyone	58	50.88%
Voters: 114. You may not vote on this poll

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top Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,907	Re: Let the shutdown begin serious question then.. who's to blame for this? i hear people blindly calling out Obama and idk if it's really his fault or not.

10-1-2013, 05:34 PM	#120
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: Let the shutdown begin I'll make it clearer for you so you can quit pretending to clutch at pearls: you're blaming the dems (edit: in part) because "well, Obama is black, so he knew what he was getting into with these racist whites, and he was a democrat trying to get in during a republican-controlled congress... it's his own fault" similar to the blame-logic of "well that girl was hot and wasn't wearing much, so she knew what she was getting into with these guys... it's her own fault" why not put the blame on the people actually causing the problem at hand rather than the "victim" for not being more tolerating (and permissive) of the external abuses? this entire shutdown is attributable in fault to the tea party nutjobs and other factions of the GOP. people seem to forget that the ACA was a compromise from the outset (and the GOP was for it before they were against it). Now they're moving the goalposts yet again. They already lost countless times on this front and have to resort to threatening damage because they didn't get their way. like Jon Stewart said, it's like a football team losing and then making threats if they aren't given points. this "both sides are at fault" false-equivalence bullshit solves nothing because it perpetuates a state of denial and hurts the national dialogue by diverting focus away from the source of the problem. Sometimes both parties are at fault. But in this case it's an extremely GOP-sided skew distribution, and the only way to argue to the contrary is to bend over backwards with mental gymnastics Last edited by Reincarnate; 10-1-2013 at 05:39 PM..

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