New Skill Analysis Metric (Trial Phase)

[PhantomPuppy]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

So yeah, this thread got a little too serious.

lol yea, some ppl are taking the graph too seriously as a way to place them. it is accurate and well put together, but once ppl take it to heart and say "see! i'm higher/lower than i should be *rabble rabble rabble*" it's taken a bit too serious haha

[choof]

Originally Posted by PhantomPuppy

lol yea, some ppl are taking the graph too seriously as a way to place them. it is accurate and well put together, but once ppl take it to heart and say "see! i'm higher/lower than i should be *rabble rabble rabble*" it's taken a bit too serious haha

if something pops up that makes it easier for players to complain about their placements, then they'll do it

[Poison-]

you dont need hours a day to get better but ok

[YoshL]

Originally Posted by krunkykai22

So based upon the spreadsheet, since I'm placed in D6 in the official, am i placed correctly? Or, because I have True/False/False does that mean I'd be lower?

i don't think i was really overreacting, the "omfg" was like a joke indicator, so was the lol

is everyone reading into things much? also, i don't think i've ever had an outburst about placements elsewhere? idk what you're talking about guys lol

also, i think part of it's my fault for mis-reading krunky's intentions, to me it looked like he was saying "am i placed correctly in the official" essentially, putting alot more faith in this trial metric than would be logical, so i was maybe a bit annoyed that i felt that krunky was choosing to try and debate his placement in the official, along with his complaining (not in this thread, but in previous tournaments and such)

etc.

[Trumpet63]

Okay, seriously, this is not the tournament thread. Let us remember that this is a thread for a developing skill-measuring statistic, and I have no association with the event staff. Since none of this most recent conversation has been directed at the Zenith Score, I have to conclude that you're barking up the wrong tree.

[krunkykai22]

Yoshl - I don't think I have really complained much about my placements on the forum to be quite honest. In person I speak to AJ and Kayla about it, but I've come to terms that my scores and what not depict me as a D6 player. I am very upset with myself, actually for dropping in skill from not playing for 2 years. Also from the injuries I've sustained to both of my hands at the hands of concrete cinderblocks lol

I guess I also mistook your posts to be derogatory and flame like so to speak with the exception of not reading the "omfg" and "lol" It's not always easy to understand the language spoken through mere words. So my apologies.

td;lr I am quite content with being D6. It's a challenge that I've had for 4 years in this division, and I will do whatever I can to either reach the top and advance or just plain keep practicing



Also, this is an awesome thing trumpet you got going on. I think it's pretty damn amazing. Thanks for reading me my results and explaining what it meant. Sorry again for any misunderstanding.

[YoshL]

#apologies

anyways, trumpet if you're wanting to calibrate your placement more, try selecting people (maybe even me lol) who are borderline cases, and solid cases. I.e. i'm borderline D5/D6, while someone like hi19hi19 is pretty much very solid D5, and see what placements you get for those types of things.

It's not going to cover all the fringe cases obviously, but it's a good start instead of determining an arbitrary range to put people in divisions over

[Charu]

Can I be D-Snivy?

[SK8R43]

Originally Posted by Poison-

If you can get to round 4 in D6 you belong in D6.

Not really, i never got past round 3 or 4 in D5 either. Anyways i'm done.

[Trumpet63]

Originally Posted by YoshL

#apologies

anyways, trumpet if you're wanting to calibrate your placement more, try selecting people (maybe even me lol) who are borderline cases, and solid cases. I.e. i'm borderline D5/D6, while someone like hi19hi19 is pretty much very solid D5, and see what placements you get for those types of things.

It's not going to cover all the fringe cases obviously, but it's a good start instead of determining an arbitrary range to put people in divisions over

Thank you. That's definitely where I'm headed, I'm just waiting on Silvuh to implement some of the recent changes on the spreadsheet, and I plan to move forward with getting information on every player in the tournament. My division separations right now are pretty arbitrary tbh, but I've said that; it's just a very small sample of some of the divisions.

I'll be looking for volunteers once the changes are finalized btw, I just want to make sure we're getting good information when we do this so we don't have to do it all again.

EDIT: Thank you for the kind words Krunky

[One Winged Angel]

SK8R you in particular have claimed on multiple occasions that you're D6 (e.g. http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...3&postcount=10). Whenever officials roll around, everyone trying to undercut their skill level in comparison to previous posts regarding where they should rightfully should be gets really annoying.

Also stop means stop, even with the one liner retorts.

[Trumpet63]

Maybe we can revisit everyone's division placement issues when I have thoroughly sampled all the divisions.

[SK8R43]

Originally Posted by One Winged Angel

SK8R you in particular have claimed on multiple occasions that you're D6 (e.g. http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...3&postcount=10). Whenever officials roll around, everyone trying to undercut their skill level in comparison to previous posts regarding where they should rightfully should be gets really annoying.

Also stop means stop, even with the one liner retorts.

In that particular instance I was claiming that people say i'm mid D6. Ive also been told i'm definitely not.
And alright. Sorry :P

[rushyrulz]

Information, science, AND technology??!? What even..

[Trumpet63]

Z-Score = 62.98
Z-Score Scaled = 92.00


Z-Score = 49.52
Z-Score Scaled = 60.06


Z-Score = 72.33
Z-Score Scaled = 84.08

[dabomb2223]

This is sweet. Thanks for doing it for me trumpet.

[MinaciousGrace]

why do people use the default excel graph layout it literally gives me figurative brain cancer

like really my figurative brain only has a few months left

[krunkykai22]

Originally Posted by Trumpet63

EDIT: Thank you for the kind words Krunky

No problem!

[Trumpet63]

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace

why do people use the default excel graph layout it literally gives me figurative brain cancer

like really my figurative brain only has a few months left

Welp, I never really thought to switch it to anything. If you have excel you should PM me a layout.

[lurker]

i put the spreadsheet on google docs and i'm wondering where the weighted z-score is in this:

				SUM1		SUM2		Z-Score		Best Diff
W: original Z-score		219855.6	14501114.8	65.95745025	61
W1: divide by all n		11479.67281	739838.4129	64.44769157	56
W2: divide by played n		13858.96389	1755482.149	126.6676328	65
W3: divide by NGC < 28 files	17147.52476	2017537.133	117.6576306	65

i get that my z-score is almost 66 (first row) but none of the other values look like the weighted z-score i'd expect
just curious how much my self-esteem should be ruined by this hue