Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps - Page 4

**Oni-Paranoia** · 06-29-2009, 01:14 AM

@darkandmenacing: To avoid confusion among why someone rated a file the way they did, experts should hold the chance. It shows that they have played the game much more than anyone new. Not only played but have experienced many different types of patterns, music etc etc... Also the part with having someone play a song more than once is golden. Shows the chart is understood a lot more and hopefully the player isn't going to put personal reference in for rating.

I still say a few deserve this chance and not everyone but enough people so there is an equal average. If everyone had this chance.. Chaos. If very select few had this chance, it would be labeled as expert/newbie/mod biased etc.

@Tass: You can make it happen...

**Bolth mannn** · 06-30-2009, 04:04 AM

prehaps you have to have played a certain song, 20 times, before you can rate?

also, when it comes to the guru's of this game, there will be the problem of elites thinking all songs below 7 are BORING. and they will all rate it low.

only people who have 7 as their best level will be the best at judging these files.

there are lots of things that could go wrong, but i still think this offer should be implemented.

who_cares973 · 06-30-2009, 04:17 AM

not entirely true bolth

all i play are VC+ and i consider myself above the average player skill wise yet i love straight to video as well as other difficult and below charts. also almost every one thats T1-T0 has been playing ffr more many years and im pretty sure they've played most if not all the songs and know which songs they absolutely hated playing when they were beginning and what songs they enjoyed. the problem i see with the rating system is newer players rating the harder songs low because of the difficulty of the file and not because of the file itself.

Xx{Midnight}xX · 06-30-2009, 02:01 PM

Anyfile that's is fun and not Rato would get ok ratings. Now files like Legendary Etude and that **** ending would surely be docked for that.
I wish this would be implemented. But hey until it is i guess we could maybe get a thread that's not the difficulties one?

**darkandmenacing** · 07-11-2009, 06:30 AM

Once again, I'd like to point out some of the finer details of my suggestion, which still eliminate many of the concerns I'm seeing. If one must achieve a certain skill level at the song on a consistant basis, angsty new players who are simply angry that they can't beat the song, will not be able to rate it. The hoops eliminate the casual, and anyone willing to go through said hoops to rate songs that are far below their skill level, are probably the songs they like anyway, which will balance out with the newer players who are rating at their maximum skill level. If you really look into the finer points of my second post on page three, if implimented the way I suggest, will take care of most any concernes that have already been stated. I'm still waiting to see some sort of new concern.

**Patashu** · 07-11-2009, 06:39 AM

A high level of skill maybe, but consistent? It would just piss off people who want to go through all of FFR's songs and rate them all; instead of playing once maybe twice and giving feedback, they have to play X times. Also, because of CoMbO ScOrInG someone could do well at a song but get random breakers that prevent the acquisition of a good canonical scoring run. (I remember Bynary Fission had a bit of a problem here; getting nice FMO runs but always with a break or two so they didn't count.) I played around with the idea of doing something like 'get 90% of the highest score to be able to vote/comment' or 'get a combo count 50% or greater of the full combo count to be able to vote/comment' but I don't want to put forward anything that would encourage/be prone to mashability.

**SKG_Scintill** · 07-11-2009, 07:15 AM

Let songs that are rated 1 star to be deleted, EVERYONE VOTE 1 STAR ON SYNTHFILES!

**Patashu** · 07-11-2009, 07:12 PM

F sucks as an overstepped file anyway rofl. look at linus's it's boring

**customstuff** · 07-11-2009, 07:15 PM

HAHAHA. I was looking at the first page and I saw myself. I thought "HACKED?!?!?!" but then I noticed that was in 2007! XD

Seefu Sefirosu · 07-12-2009, 03:55 PM

I partially agree with Sprite-, but I think this should be like the email address: You get the email when you become a subby, you still have it if you leave. I think if you've ever subscribed, you should be able to rate.

06-29-2009, 01:14 AM	#61
Oni-Paranoia No fucks Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Everywhere Posts: 2,440	Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps @darkandmenacing: To avoid confusion among why someone rated a file the way they did, experts should hold the chance. It shows that they have played the game much more than anyone new. Not only played but have experienced many different types of patterns, music etc etc... Also the part with having someone play a song more than once is golden. Shows the chart is understood a lot more and hopefully the player isn't going to put personal reference in for rating. I still say a few deserve this chance and not everyone but enough people so there is an equal average. If everyone had this chance.. Chaos. If very select few had this chance, it would be labeled as expert/newbie/mod biased etc. @Tass: You can make it happen...

06-30-2009, 04:04 AM	#62
Bolth mannn FFR Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 29 Posts: 2,228	Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps prehaps you have to have played a certain song, 20 times, before you can rate? also, when it comes to the guru's of this game, there will be the problem of elites thinking all songs below 7 are BORING. and they will all rate it low. only people who have 7 as their best level will be the best at judging these files. there are lots of things that could go wrong, but i still think this offer should be implemented. __________________ Last edited by Bolth mannn; 06-30-2009 at 04:06 AM..

06-30-2009, 04:17 AM	#63
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps not entirely true bolth all i play are VC+ and i consider myself above the average player skill wise yet i love straight to video as well as other difficult and below charts. also almost every one thats T1-T0 has been playing ffr more many years and im pretty sure they've played most if not all the songs and know which songs they absolutely hated playing when they were beginning and what songs they enjoyed. the problem i see with the rating system is newer players rating the harder songs low because of the difficulty of the file and not because of the file itself. __________________

06-30-2009, 02:01 PM	#64
Xx{Midnight}xX FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 31 Posts: 8,548	Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps Anyfile that's is fun and not Rato would get ok ratings. Now files like Legendary Etude and that **** ending would surely be docked for that. I wish this would be implemented. But hey until it is i guess we could maybe get a thread that's not the difficulties one?

07-11-2009, 06:30 AM	#65
darkandmenacing FFR Veteran Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere around Seattle Age: 40 Posts: 6	Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps Once again, I'd like to point out some of the finer details of my suggestion, which still eliminate many of the concerns I'm seeing. If one must achieve a certain skill level at the song on a consistant basis, angsty new players who are simply angry that they can't beat the song, will not be able to rate it. The hoops eliminate the casual, and anyone willing to go through said hoops to rate songs that are far below their skill level, are probably the songs they like anyway, which will balance out with the newer players who are rating at their maximum skill level. If you really look into the finer points of my second post on page three, if implimented the way I suggest, will take care of most any concernes that have already been stated. I'm still waiting to see some sort of new concern.

07-11-2009, 06:39 AM	#66
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps A high level of skill maybe, but consistent? It would just piss off people who want to go through all of FFR's songs and rate them all; instead of playing once maybe twice and giving feedback, they have to play X times. Also, because of CoMbO ScOrInG someone could do well at a song but get random breakers that prevent the acquisition of a good canonical scoring run. (I remember Bynary Fission had a bit of a problem here; getting nice FMO runs but always with a break or two so they didn't count.) I played around with the idea of doing something like 'get 90% of the highest score to be able to vote/comment' or 'get a combo count 50% or greater of the full combo count to be able to vote/comment' but I don't want to put forward anything that would encourage/be prone to mashability. __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

07-11-2009, 07:12 PM	#68
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps F sucks as an overstepped file anyway rofl. look at linus's it's boring __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

07-12-2009, 03:55 PM	#70
Seefu Sefirosu FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 32 Posts: 314	Re: Suggestion--Rating Songs/Steps I partially agree with Sprite-, but I think this should be like the email address: You get the email when you become a subby, you still have it if you leave. I think if you've ever subscribed, you should be able to rate.

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