Law where if you can't prove nothing, you can't do nothing about it.

[MooMoo_Cowfreak]

Originally Posted by pokelda

back in the good old days, we had this amazing technology called pen and paper

I myself prefer a pencil thank you.

In response to what you said EnR, I once e-mailed a teacher bashing her. Like she was teaching my 6th grade friend's class Algebra, and she basically gave them a 5 minute lecture and gave them the homework. He was struggling with it, so I helped him. Pissed off, I e-mailed her. The next day she changed her ways and talked to the students about how they felt about her and if they were stressed or whatever. So yeah I made a DIFFERENCE.

[~kitty~]

Originally Posted by coraleaterlinda

her class, her rules. it's school, "rights" arent really an issue here.

lol...
Those aren't rights you should have (to ENR)

I mean, I had no right to talk back to the teachers who gave me ISS for raising my hand or slammed doors in my faces and told me that a guy could kill me outside of a classroom... because no one will believe you anyways.

I mean, seriously, I have a better reason to make a thread like this...

My teacher gave me a 20 on a test because I used fractions instead of decimals and put "Pencils and Erasers" as something I would be thankful for this Thanksgiving...

the only two I got right were Avogadro's Number (6.022 x 10^23) and some question that ended up having the answer being a whole number.

[Red_Comet]

that is pretty disturbing kitty, but did you follow verbal directions? she could have specified decimals to be rounded to the largest xth digit.

[EnR]

Originally Posted by Patricoo

He should probably be paying attention anyway. Seriously.

"Can't prove nothing." You shouldn't be playing games.

The teacher didn't leave the supply teacher any work. So basically, we expected her to be cool and let us lisin' to music and play games, search the web on our laptops, which most of our teachers do. But instead, this sub ****ing sits right behind us half the time (us four) and then doesn't even look at the other 5-6 people with laptops scattered around the class.

[MrRubix]

Were you guys being loud/noisy/whatever?

[EnR]

Neither of us were even talking.

[Patricoo]

Doesn't matter.

[EnR]

Alright, I have one more thing to discuss about, involving school.

The past 2 years, we have got this class added before lunch, called P.E.P, which is a study period, and a class where we would do homework. They made this class by taking 10 minutes of all 4 classes and then making this class 40 minutes long. What atleast 10-15% of the school does is skip it, and some of my friends are getting threatend to have their 4 credits taken away, because they won't have the 110 hours required for each class.

But what I'm thinking is... What if some of the kids getting threatend to have their credits taken away because of skipping this class too much, being told, that 10 minutes still counts as class hours, still go to each class for atleast 110 hours, but skip P.E.P.

They're still getting the time required, and still get to skip the P.E.P, but for some reason are still getting threatend to have their credits taken away, for skipping a class, which really isn't a class and doesn't even give any credits.

So should these students still deserve to get their credits taken away.

[NFD]

SO LIKE I MADE PEE PEE ON THE STAGE AT MY SCHOOL, AND NOW THEY WANT TO MAKE ME PAY MONEY FOR RUINING SCHOOL PROPERTY? W T F.

What an idiot. In our school, we have a really cool principal, Mr. Handel, who randomly pops into classes and distracts the kids and the teachers always wag their fingers and go "Oh you", and whenever something comes up with no proof, he's willing to talk about it.

[tsugomaru]

You just don't get it do you? Whether or not the law makes sense, it's the law. The teacher is the law in this case and if she's using her judgment to decide that you were up to no good, then that's the end of that. The only time where you would be above her is that if you weren't doing anything wrong at all, which you obviously were not.

~Tsugomaru

[MrRubix]

EnR:

I don't quite understand. How many class days do you have? Are you saying that there's Class 1 + Class 2 + Class 3 + Class 4 + some fraction*(Class 1 + Class 2 + Class 3 + Class 4) per day or something, for a total of 550 hours total? And somehow each class is worth a credit, except the last one?


Regardless: You guys should not be skipping class so much. It seems like your circle of friends put more effort into trying to game the system and see what you can get away with than actually showing up and just doing what you're supposed to be doing. Seems like there's this constant need to bend and break and rules and then complain when there are repercussions.

[tsugomaru]

Originally Posted by EnR

nvm

Before you get some crazy ideas about what I said before I edited this post, what is going on here? I was under the assumption that they were taking an extra class outside, but not getting the credits for a small 10 minute period per day. But after rereading your post, they seem to be taking no extra class and that the small period is made from 10 minutes from each class. If you have 4 classes, that would be 40 minutes, making it almost another period or class. If it's suppose to count for a class, then they have every right to take away your credits if you don't take the class.

The goal of this class is a study period. It's not supposed to be your off period. You're just looking for ways to skip school, which is just fine as long as you're ready to accept the consequences.

~Tsugomaru

[EnR]

Originally Posted by MrRubix

EnR:

I don't quite understand. How many class days do you have? Are you saying that there's Class 1 + Class 2 + Class 3 + Class 4 + some fraction*(Class 1 + Class 2 + Class 3 + Class 4) per day or something, for a total of 550 hours total? And somehow each class is worth a credit, except the last one?


Regardless: You guys should not be skipping class so much. It seems like your circle of friends put more effort into trying to game the system and see what you can get away with than actually showing up and just doing what you're supposed to be doing. Seems like there's this constant need to bend and break and rules and then complain when there are repercussions.

2 semesters, 4 classes each semester. French/English/P.E.P/Lunch/Math/Welding. that's this semester, for me anyway. that exact schedual from sept 5th or whenever we started school until feburary. then I get my next 4 classes.

Originally Posted by tsugomaru

Before you get some crazy ideas about what I said before I edited this post, what is going on here? I was under the assumption that they were taking an extra class outside, but not getting the credits for a small 10 minute period per day. But after rereading your post, they seem to be taking no extra class and that the small period is made from 10 minutes from each class. If you have 4 classes, that would be 40 minutes, making it almost another period or class. If it's suppose to count for a class, then they have every right to take away your credits if you don't take the class.

~Tsugomaru

It doesn't count for anything though, it's just a period which nobody does anything, well some people do, but most don't. If we still got the 110 hours in each class, and still skipped P.E.P, it would be the same thing.

Originally Posted by KgZ

do you mean skip P.E.P and instead use those 10 minutes in class normally like in the past?

It would never work, because that's more work for teachers and would probably interfere with their contact.

No, just go to our classes as we usually would, and then skip PEP, go eat lunch early, etc. We'd still be getting the required 110 hours of each class, even with skipping PEP.

Btw, if anyone cares, my school has like only 300 students, and the 9th and 10th graders lunch/PEP switch with us, when we have Lunch, they have PEP, when they have lunch, we have PEP.


EDIT: Also, I skip PEP to go eat lunch with my girl friend, who is in 9th grade, me being in 11th, she has a different lunch time than me, therefore I skip PEP to go see her, basically because she's more important than school.

[EnR]

Yea, that's probably the reason. I mean, who likes to clean up piss... Especially when it would be next to the Ping-Pong tables, so I wouldn't be able to play during lunch.



EDIT: Rubix, I forgot to add, we only have a required 440 hours total. 4 classes. the 5th PEP doesn't even count for hours. Well, apparently it does according to the principal, he says it adds into that 440 total.

[MrRubix]

So you get 4 credits per semester? And they are threatening to take away the semester's credits? What's the requirement for PEP attendance?

[EnR]

There is none, it just supposedly counts in that 440 hours.

[virus003]

This thread just became a beat on rzr thread. Rofl.

Originally Posted by MrRubix

Jesus rzr, you're like some weird level of low-class retard or something.

Use a damn bathroom like the rest of the civilized world -- you're not a leaky puppy or some ****. Didn't even lay down the newspaper, I bet.

BTW also horrible example -- evidence is all up in that ****.

Thank goodness that anyone worthwhile (i.e. anyone not retarded) will graduate in a few years or sooner and no longer have to be burdened by your presence.

Go play in traffic.

[MrRubix]

Well, if it counts, then it counts. You need to attend it. If you're constantly skipping a required course, you're going to be punished for it.

[EnR]

I still don't think we should lose 4 credits for this one class, if we still get 440+ hours of class time. BUT, I do agree that we should still be punished for it, but mainly just detentions or something.

[Patricoo]

First off, no 9th grader is worth it because you'll just break up by the time you get to college. If you don't, then you'll break up by the time she gets to college because lets be honest, 300 sized school? Once she gets older you guys will be out of things to "do" and she'll have more attractive guys around her for once.

Psht. College students here? Please say amen to that.

Also, the issue here seems to be that kids are skipping study hall and are getting threatened to be discipline you for skipping study hall. The question is, is this fair. (EDIT: I wrote that for myself so I wouldn't go off track again. Heh.) Well to be honest, you have to consider two things. One, they need to have some track of you. You can't be around anywhere you want righT? Your school probably has some sort of hall pass system/doesn't allow you to do a waltz in the hallways. You gotta be somewhere, so even though you probably won't like it, it's a fair punishment to restrict credits. Being uclocatable due to skipping class is a perfectly legit reason to put down such a severe punishment.

Now, to be honest, I hate study hall. You're right. It is useless. No one studies. Everyone talks or just sits around. It's stupid. You win that argument. What can you do about it? Well you can either gripe to your friends and then go to an internet forum, or you could actually attempt to rally some support of the student council and faculty and try to change it.

Or you could just go to the damned class and be glad you don't have to do anything.