FFR & The Human Potential

[danny53x]

I really don't know about skill caps, because I feel lightyears away from the brink of my potential. I feel that the more you play, the better you get. You recognize the patterns more easily, and your accuracy only rises, especially if you play on a higher judgment. I feel like there's always room for improvement.

[L0NEvvolf]

As you get better your sure to slow down, in the rate at which you improve, but I believe there is always room for improvement.

[jellygod]

i have to agree to some extent that there is always room for improvement, but you can only improve so much. its kind of like ffr playing styles, for insanely good one handers playing 1 handed is natural, i know that there is no way in hell no matter how much i played one handed, tens of thousands of games... could i ever become good at it, same with me and spread.. my left handed just isnt coordinated so no matter how much practice i did i dont think i could get any good, index is right for me. some people are just naturally better at this game and everyone has to deal with that, but there is always room for a little improvement no matter what style is your forte.

[EAGAMES]

Originally Posted by Squeek

Why the hell did you think this is Critical Thinking?

Moved.

Also, find better ways to make a point. Nobody wants to read that wall of text.

Edit: It looks like your point is basically "all humans could do the same thing if given enough time to practice"

Wrong. It's all based on genetics.

Also you people look exactly the same. Blue names, stupid chibi avatars, etc. Thought you oughta know. I can't differentiate between any of you.

1.) If you read the small print at the bottom, it says along the lines that I'm sorry if this isn't CT.
2.) Thanks for the move.
3.) You could always go down to the last paragraph. Sorry for not stating that you could at the beginning.
4.) I respect that.
5.)Yes. >_>

Also, sorry if anyone got offended by this thread. Obviously it was not my intention, and I don't see why anyone would, but one member did and I'm guessing a couple more did, too. Perhaps one thought I said that anyone even with disabilites can get as good as someone without ones, but I didn't say. I said everyone excluding the ones with disabilites.

I just wanted to clarify that.

[ledwix]

Skill is clearly an asymptotic function in FFR.


For each person it's different, so there basically is a limit to human potential. The limit, of course, depends on raw talent and genetics.

[OrganisM]

Highest average rank should be the number one overall rank, rather than just points, but that's just me I guess.

As for scoring, those who FC won't do as well as those who AAA, obviously. The best players will AAA, so the argument is moot.

[Izzy]

ffr is a bad indicator of anything, accuracy isn't even a factor. We would have to be talking about stepmania to get anywhere.

[OrganisM]

Err, the whole point is FFR. FFR is not Stepmania, nor was it ever meant to be as far as I understand it. FFR is FFR, so when we talk about potential on FFR, we're not talking about Stepmania.

[Izzy]

Were talking about human potential. FFR was meant to be ddr, and stepmania was meant to be ddr. End of discussion. They are similar whether you like it or not.

[OrganisM]

They are not the same thing, and they've evolved into different things. Much that applies to FFR does not apply to Stempania, and vice versa.

[[TeRa]]

I've been saying it for years, I don't believe there is a skill cap in anything, records will continue to be broken, we will never get to a point where no records are physically impassible.

I don't believe there will be a point where you just completely stop getting better.

Maybe there is a limit, but even if there is, no one will ever be that good, which makes it feel like there is no limit in skill.

[Mookage]

Well a while back I actually thought I had reached my maximum. That's why I left for 2-3 months. But then I just felt like I hadn't reached my full potential, and now I destroy scores that I thought were amazing back then with "awwww that sucked" scores of today.

It's all about effort; if you will it and work at it you can improve no matter what.

This is what I believe anyway.

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by OrganisM

They are not the same thing, and they've evolved into different things. Much that applies to FFR does not apply to Stempania, and vice versa.

Everything that applies to ffr applies to stepmania except it's better and there's more of it.

No one here has mentioned that we are talking about human potential that only pertains to hitting notes really fast under a limit of 30 frames per second and in a timing window of 2 frames per second.

[OrganisM]

So FFR is exactly the same as Stepmania.

k.

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by Izzy

They are similar whether you like it or not.

You are really paranoid aren't you. This isn't even anything to argue about. Nothing i have said is even debatable.

[OrganisM]

You make it sound as if there's no difference, that's all.

I'm not paranoid, though I appreciate the snide remark; it makes you really clever.

[Izzy]

I didn't say that or imply that. What you get out of my text is up to your personal judgment.

[Kynosaur]

Originally Posted by Izzy

2 frames per second.

Tass said in a recent thread that the perfect window was 3 frames. Now I'm confused

[Izzy]

I would trust him on that more then me. It is probably 3 frames per second then.

[OrganisM]

Originally Posted by Izzy

I didn't say that or imply that. What you get out of my text is up to your personal judgment.

I was saying that the degree of similarity is not as strong as you implied it to be, and that there were some fundamental differences. You implied more similarity than I did. Are you really going to argue that point?