Emancipation

[s0ulst0n3]

Thanks Stretchy and Whalerot! I was unaware how illegal this was. She just told me she was going to set up an appointment in court and she wanted me OUT OF THE HOUSE before she gets home from work, and she doesn't want to see me until court day, and I'm kind of scared what will happen if I stick around. I would see a counselor in school, but today was our last day.

I might go to Lutherwood, it's where I meet my psychologist every couple days. If I tell him, he might do something.

[infinity.]

Originally Posted by Whalerot

Oh, call this flaming or not, it's a lesson.

You are 13, and I've had problems with my mom since I could talk.

I understand you're a pretty smart kid and you're PROBABLY smarter then your mom, but there is no need to show it, my mom is boarderline retarded, but in her house, it's her rule.

You are 13 and I'm not going to lie, it's your mom's fault, if she can't keep control of you that's her fault, so chances are you guys wont have a permanant fix, so my suggestion is submit like a bitch.

nice job pointing out things we all know.

Soul, I have a friend who went through this, but in a much worse situation. He was sent to live with the closest living relative and put on house arrest. He didn't really support himself in court at all though, so it would be in your best interest to prove to the judge that you aren't a danger to yourself or family, and that your mom is just overreacting.

[s0ulst0n3]

Originally Posted by Infinity.

Soul, I have a friend who went through this, but in a much worse situation. He was sent to live with the closest living relative and put on house arrest. He didn't really support himself in court at all though, so it would be in your best interest to prove to the judge that you aren't a danger to yourself or family, and that your mom is just overreacting.

Maybe you're right. I don't have a problem not living at home, but I don't want to live with someone who thinks I'm a lier.

By the way, counterproductive means she was trying to make me do something (like going to school) and what she did was effect that in a negative way even more, right?

[stretchypanda]

Pretty much. If she removes you from her reign (by kicking you out) she doesn't really emphasize the importance of going to school.

I mean, this sounds ridiculous. If you're representing your own actions accurately, it sounds as if she's just unleashing anger on you because you're a target. If you talk to an adult, you can hopefully get someone to at least observe your situation and decide if you're safe and receiving the best care in your home.

[Whalerot]

Originally Posted by s0ulst0n3

Maybe you're right. I don't have a problem not living at home, but I don't want to live with someone who thinks I'm a lier.

By the way, counterproductive means she was trying to make me do something (like going to school) and what she did was effect that in a negative way even more, right?

Liar*

No wonder you're getting an A-.

Jokes.

[s0ulst0n3]

Thanks a bunch, Stretchy! You made me think about some of my past groundings of how she pins things on me without any evidence whatsoever. Even if it was obviously one of my brothers that committed the crime. I don't see why she would act that way, though. Tough days at work, she gets a kick out of it, she just doesn't like me, etc.

Plus yeah, sorry about that liar typo. I guess I just wasn't thinking. >.<

[Falling Upon You]

Over an A-?

[Whalerot]

Originally Posted by Falling Upon You

Over an A-?

Stop feeding the damn fire, stop bringing up stuff already discussed, you're just going to make this thread drag on longer, it's over, leave it.

[MrRubix]

If your mom is trying to kick you out at that age, you have rights. Up until a certain age, parents are legally obligated to care for their children -- otherwise other measures are taken. If a child is a problem, then there are things like juvenile hall and foster homes (which is what happened with my cousin -- she was violent and they had to basically kick her out at 15).

In this case, what your mom is proposing is absolutely ridiculous and wouldn't hold up in any court. Even if she did bring it to court (which would be a monumental waste), record proof from school would probably exist to clearly indicate that her speculations are without merit.

Since you, as a minor, are not allowed the same kind of rights, responsibilities, and legal obligations (and financial functions) as an adult, you won't be expected to be self-sufficient, especially when you have a mother who is obviously throwing a big temper tantrum. If they find your mother to be irrationally crazy and/or a huge liability or danger to your upbringing, then they may put you in a foster home or some equivalent.

But no, getting forced out at 13 over something like that is ludicrous, and the courts would certainly back you up if it got to that point.

[s0ulst0n3]

Foster homes are the worst things in the world because all foster parents do is abuse and neglect and there is nothing you can do about it (or so I HEAR). >.<

Thanks a lot though, Rubix. You're all helping me a lot, I'm kind of tempted to show mom this thread when she gets back from work (despite her not wanting to see me).

EDIT: It is kind of a dumb reason, eh? She gets worked up when I get anything less than an A though. She needs me to do very well, but now that the school year is over (and my worst grade is Science at A-) there is nothing I can do.

[Relambrien]

I would recommend against telling your mom about this thread until you see a trusted adult and explain your situation in full, then get their advice. Take it from someone whose mother also gets irrationally angry--proving them wrong about something when they're already very upset only leads to much, much worse.

Explain the situation to an adult (your school principal or guidance counselor if you can get in touch, but basically anyone you trust), and have them talk to your mother for you. Adults are much more likely to listen to other adults, even if they say the exact same things and use the exact same arguments as a child. Even moreso if the adult is in a position of authority that demands a formal conversational tone.

[MrRubix]

Foster homes now are sometimes known for that, yes. They try to screen for unfit foster parents more strictly now, but of course, there are always going to be those that slip through.

But, basically, when you choose to have a kid, you're also agreeing by law that you're going to take care of it. No matter how much she may dislike you, she's obligated to support you until you're of legal age to be able to do it yourself. It sounds like she is getting upset over something silly, but of course there may be things you aren't fully revealing to us (if you're particularly nasty when you argue, that could really get on a parent's nerves and drive them to the point where they thirst to kick you out).

Originally Posted by Relambrien

Take it from someone whose mother also gets irrationally angry--proving them wrong about something when they're already very upset only leads to much, much worse.

This is very true. Arguing with irrational people is usually useless because they don't listen to reason and instead appeal to biased emotions without merit. Take it to a trusted authority first and get an adult's take on the situation, and if necessary, arrange for them to talk with your mother.

[Commandersa1]

It's good that a parent wants to make sure you have a good life(All As), but kicking you out for getting an A-. :/ Even if it was the last day of school, sometimes counselors or other teachers stay afterwards to finalize grades and whatnot. If it ever goes to court(I doubt it), make sure you have papers proving that you went to spec. ed.

Also do not show her this thread or tell her that she is wrong, or whatever you learned from this thread. She will probably cool off eventually, hopefully. Just do not make things worse.

[MrRubix]

Not even Asian parents are that hardcore O.o

[Shadowcliff]

It sounds to me like there is something going on with her that she is not telling you. Something is making her battle with emotions, and apparantly you are a nuisance to her, so she wants you to go away. Maybe you could move all your stuff to your friend's house, but stick around when your mom gets home. Ask her if there is something going on that she's not telling you. The question probably wont make her mad, but it might make her tell you.

[devonin]

Foster homes are the worst things in the world because all foster parents do is abuse and neglect and there is nothing you can do about it (or so I HEAR). >.<

You live in Ontario, that means any foster care you'd end up in would be through the Children's Aid Society. Both of my parents work for the Children's Aid Society, and believe me, issues of foster parents abusing or neglecting their kids are -incredibly- rare. In 20 years, I've heard them talk about one foster parent who didn't a very good job, and was clearly only in it for the money, but even then wasn't abusing her kids. And that's it. These homes are investigated by case workers all the time to check up on the kids, and the process is done in such a way that it is made -very- easy for the kids to raise protests in private and get a closer investigation done.

I mean, we've already established that there is -no- chance this would happen, but seriously you don't need to be afraid of the prospect of foster care in Ontario.

[s0ulst0n3]

Well Rubix, when I argue, I kind of...break things, lol. The first thing I do is run into my room, or into the living room biting onto things with my teeth breaking them, like the TV remote. Sometimes I throw stuff on the ground like lamps, but just like you should know, when I get angry, I'm angry! Haha.

My parents expect so much of me since Grade 4 when I got all A+'s on my report card..then they said "we expect this from you from now on, or you will get stuff taken away!". Kind of unfair on my part, it was going good until recently. The grade isn't the big issue though, it's the fact she thought I was skipping school when I wasn't. I overreacted, and she did as well. I see a psychologist about my anger, though.

In this case, all I broke was my speakers (I was biting on the wires..they were unplugged) and a couple plates, haha. I didn't want to mention this because..you might all think I'm insane. O.o

EDIT: That's very nice to know, Devonin! Thanks!! ^^

[Mans0n]

Well in that case lol. Maybe you just put her through the roof. I mean yeah my mom will sometimes do the same thing, blame loads of stuff on me, with absolutely no proof. Mom's can be like that sometimes. Once she cools down and she will talk to you. Tell her your sorry, and ask her to come to your school. and/or talk to a teacher, principal you can trust, who knows you were there at school.
then she will realize her mistake. Hopefully if she's anything like my mom she will forgive you, and act like it never happened.
PS: i got terrible grades, C in math # in laungage Arts. B in history. A in science.
And some other crap.

[stretchypanda]

Okay, THAT behavior might make your mom feel like she has no control over you...

[LLaMaSaUceYup]

Originally Posted by stretchypanda

Okay, THAT behavior might make your mom feel like she has no control over you...

Yeah pretty much

I've heard stories s0ulst0n3, your mom overreacts and puts her anger out on you.

I hope you can fix this mess...

*Hide your computer!*