Stepmania France Megapack released

[zebdal the legend]

ok ^^ thanks

[Gilly G]

Everyone's opinion is welcomed.

But people who just dismiss this pack as useless before trying it are just ignorant.

[Patashu]

it's more like dismissed as, probabilistically speaking, not worth the time which is a far better grounded statement you can make

[who_cares973]

I'll give this pack a try

[Nullifidian]

I'll check this out, but I wouldn't be surprised if all of the simfiles are worse than their predecessors.

Originally Posted by zebdal the legend

Scylaax and I are not noobs, I have already stepped approximatively 100 simfiles in 2 years and Scylaax maybe 50. (and we are not Nvml_zk).
So now we have a good level on stepping simfiles (maybe not like zaghurim, but better than some people in some packs).
We have worked really hard, because we were only 2 people.

Last time I checked, your necropotence was really bad lol.

Originally Posted by zebdal the legend

you, people, restepped 50000 simfiles like lawn wake IV, kasta sten, six, disregard, marisa wa taihen..., my spirit will go on, pleasant farmer, cold pizza, air, lovely lovely lovely, please listen..., shind bad, speedcore dandy, will my heart survive, archowl, mei, milky blue, cry of the brave, etc...
there is literally no reason why you'd do that. none

wait what?
Patashu and many others are pretty original in song choices afaik.
I don't think you realize that alot of the "overstepped simfiles" are initially stepped by good stepartists, and THEN the mass overstepping starts.
So they were original in song choice in the first place. People just started copying the songs after the original song choice.


btw, have you made any non-judge 1/life 1 vid yet? xD

[zebdal the legend]

I don't think you realize that alot of the "overstepped simfiles" are initially stepped by good stepartists, and THEN the mass overstepping starts.

yes I know. I don't like too than beginners stepartists does really bad simfiles on these sims.
But the sims on this pack are improved versions or different versions than the originals.
for example, paranoia evil 52 decline was a really bad simfile, I have improved it.
for hatten carnival and AAA, this is a new long version.

for necropotence, scylaax improved my own version of necropotence that you don't like. And it's a great sim.

[Roar176]

Originally Posted by Patashu

TOMORROW I WILL DOWNLOAD THIS PACK. IN-DEPTH REVIEWS/TOP 5 WILL ENSUE
not right now because I'm going to bed in like 30 minutes

Will you review my pack if I give you that kind of arguments ? (:

[Nullifidian]

Originally Posted by zebdal the legend

yes I know. I don't like too than beginners stepartists does really bad simfiles on these sims.
But the sims on this pack are improved versions or different versions than the originals.
for example, paranoia evil 52 decline was a really bad simfile, I have improved it.
for hatten carnival and AAA, this is a new long version.

Played some of the files. Imo they aren't improved.

Except for dumb stuff like paranoia evil 52 decline, but that's a song that shouldn't even be stepped. Song is terrible lol. (Which is why no good stepartist has stepped it before lol)

Most of the stuff in this pack were pretty annoying to play. Some were a tad bit fun, but I wouldn't say these were improvements on the well known simfiles for these songs.
Alot of unneccessary jacks and layering. Blue/Yellow note syndromes, missed notes, offsync notes. Even if you have an already synced sim (stolen from the original charts), you guys still managed to put notes that were offsync.

Almost all these songs have been stepped to their potential before, so it's a waste of time trying to restep them to "improve" them.
Like the Kamaitachi and Dream to Nightmare in this pack were nothing compared to Kommi's Kamaitachi and Cetaka's Dream to Nightmare.
And BF2014 for example was completely overstepped.

[zebdal the legend]

Like the Kamaitachi and Dream to Nightmare in this pack were nothing compared to Kommi's Kamaitachi and Cetaka's Dream to Nightmare.

surely, but I don't have played them.

but cetaka is a bad stepartist in my opinion.

And BF2014 for example was completely overstepped.

I didn't know, I only know the very first version of this sim, my own version and scylaax's.

Alot of unneccessary jacks and layering.

I thought the same thing for the layering in scylaax sims. ^^
in particular bf2014
but it's like that he step his sims.

for the jacks there is only death reveals who has useless jacks

[ScylaX]

I didn't know, I only know the very first version of this sim, my own version and scylaax's.

Torrent made a bf2014 sim before me, therefore, I took the song from his ver.

[Nullifidian]

Originally Posted by zebdal the legend

but cetaka is a bad stepartist in my opinion.

He's most definetely not bad lol. He makes fun hard simfiles.

Originally Posted by zebdal the legend

for the jacks there is only death reveals who has useless jacks

Alot of layering jacks that shouldn't be there in alot of sims, and i'm not just talking about death reveals. In almost all the sims.


You guys should think of the flow of the file, instead of layering the crap out of it until it becomes awkward to play.
If something doesn't flow nicely, don't do it.

[zebdal the legend]

Almost all these songs have been stepped to their potential before, so it's a waste of time trying to restep them to "improve" them.

Generally, a song is stepped for his potential, so that's not really an argument.
for the sharpnel simfiles, sharpnel has a lot of success for stepartists.
I'm the best french Sharpnel Fan in France, that's why I chose 6 sims on Sharpnel, not necessary to improve them, but just for doing my own version of them, in particular blue army who is my favourite song of Sharpnel.

He's most definetely not bad lol. He makes fun hard simfiles.

maybe milky blue, but lot of his sims are stupid and too hard or with a ****ing midi song.

Alot of layering jacks that shouldn't be there in alot of sims

maybe, some people like it.

What simfiles on this pack do you like?
Maybe it's better to begin by that.

[Nullifidian]

Originally Posted by zebdal the legend

if you talk about sharpnel simfiles, sharpnel has a lot of success for stepartists.
I'm the best french Sharpnel Fan in France, that's why I chose 6 sims on Sharpnel, not necessary to improve them, but just for doing my own version of them, in particular blue army who is my favourite song of Sharpnel.

I'm not just talking about the Sharpnel simfiles. I'm talking about almost every song in this pack.
And calling yourself the biggest Sharpnel fan in France makes you look a bit cocky lol. There are probably tons of people that you don't know about in France that love Sharpnel.

Originally Posted by zebdal the legend

I'm the best french Sharpnel Fan in France

Aside from the cockiness, check out my collection lol. If you got anything I don't have yet, message me. :P I'm trying to complete an entire discography of DJ Sharpnel.
Maybe we can trade songs if I don't have a song you got.
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...hought/172503/

Originally Posted by zebdal the legend

maybe milky blue, but lot of his sims are stupid and too hard or with a ****ing midi song.

His sims being too hard is subjective though. I don't find them hard anymore, but they're still tricky to get good scores on.
I guess it's just up to personal taste. I for one really like cetaka's simfiles, since they pose a nice challenge and are fun to play when you're good enough.
And no offense, but his sims make more sense than your sims.

[zebdal the legend]

I'm not just talking about the Sharpnel simfiles. I'm talking about almost every song in this pack.

yeah i know
==>

Generally, a song is stepped for his potential, so that's not really an argument.

And calling yourself the biggest Sharpnel fan in France makes you look a bit cocky lol. There are probably tons of people that you don't know about in France that love Sharpnel.

I know too.
but i'm a sort of fan who listen like 2 or 3 hours by day sharpnel songs and who knows in which album you can find a song.
each time i find a new song or a new album i try to have it.
etc...
I'm a fan.

Aside from the cockiness, check out my collection lol. If you got anything I don't have yet, message me. :P I'm trying to complete an entire discography of DJ Sharpnel.
Maybe we can trade songs if I don't have a song you got.
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...hought/172503/

i have already 26 albums and 3 singles songs.
I have lost some songs when I have changed my pc : ( like "Operation No. 9"
but the problem is: I want the cds but it's unable to find them in france and there is no import : (

[operationstrawbarry]

When I saw this thread I thought, "wonderful. Some real European techno songs will be here that isn't sterotypical of SMO, FFR, DDR etc...."

Thx for dissappointing me.

Im sorry, but none of these songs Ill ever play. I dont even play the versions of these songs from the well known artists.

obvieously the first prob here is stepping songs that have been stepped a billion times.

Ya I would buy sharpnel Albums to. The problem is, is that there would be only be a selected amount of songs that I would listen to over and over again and the rest I wont ever touch. Thats the problem with non compliation/ non nonstop techno albums.

[Nullifidian]

Originally Posted by zebdal the legend

Generally, a song is stepped for his potential, so that's not really an argument.

I don't think you get what I mean. I'm saying that the songs have been stepped to it's full potential, or at least close to it's full potential.
So any improvements on the simfiles would mean a very very minor improvement.

What I'm saying is, songs are stepped as good as possible already by good and well-known stepartists, and don't need any improvements.

Originally Posted by zebdal the legend

i have already 26 albums and 3 singles songs.
I have lost some songs when I have changed my pc : ( like "Operation No. 9"
but the problem is: I want the cds but it's unable to find them in france and there is no import : (

Sucks that you lost some songs.

Anyway, I saw your comment on my random thought.
I don't just give away songs, it doesn't work like that. :P
I want something in return for rare songs. :P
They're rare for a reason, and I don't plan on giving them out like free candy. :P

edit: I have 41 albums, of which most I have stored digitally. (I got some Sharpnel albums in real life as well though. But they're kind of hard to come by in the Netherlands)
I have 4 livesets, 4 megamixes, and 26 single songs (and 90% of them is retardedly hard to get lol).

[zebdal the legend]

Originally Posted by operationstrawbarry

When I saw this thread I thought, "wonderful. Some real European techno songs will be here."

Thx for dissappointing me.

arff, stepmania france megapack didn't mean that was a megapack of french songs. sorry!
it's just a megapack done by french people of stepmania france.

I don't think you get what I mean. I'm saying that the songs have been stepped to it's full potential, or at least close to it's full potential.
So any improvements on the simfiles would mean a very very minor improvement.

oh, ok!
but some sims needed big improvements. maybe not all, but whatever.
for a really first pack I think we have done a decent pack.
If you see an old pack like "keyboard megapack" or "keyboard collab" you'll see that was not perfect too.
If we do a new pack in the future, it will be better than the first and surely with new songs, no resteps sims.

This pack will be used too as a pack playable for my french online tournament on stepmania france.

Anyway, I saw your comment on my random thought.
I don't just give away songs, it doesn't work like that. :P
I want something in return for rare songs. :P
They're rare for a reason, and I don't plan on giving them out like free candy. :P

^^ you have all I have.
Maybe, it will be cool if we created a fan website of DJ Sharpnel, with all the infos of this songs, all the samples references (I have a big quantity of his references thanks to wikipedia), maybe a top 50 of his songs, etc...
And it'll be easier for you to find the songs you want if all sharpnel fans are on the same website.

[kommisar[os]]

Originally Posted by robertsona

list of french stepmania users:

zebdal

scylaax

EDIT: read the first post; makes more sense i guess.

might download

YAY FOR INTERNATIONAL STEPMANIA

Kommisar

innuendo

Roar

Dragoonhead





i'll make a review of a few songs soon

[Nullifidian]

Originally Posted by zebdal the legend

oh, ok!
but some sims needed big improvements. maybe not all, but whatever.
for a really first pack I think we have done a decent pack.
If you see an old pack like "keyboard megapack" or "keyboard collab" you'll see that was not perfect too.
If we do a new pack in the future, it will be better than the first and surely with new songs, no resteps sims.

The songs that needed improvement are songs that shouldn't have been stepped lol.
And keyboard megapacks and collabs were packs before any solid simfile theories were made.
Nowadays the sims need to meet certain standards to be included in a good pack. And some of the sims in the keyboard megapacks and collabs were pretty good, even now.

Good that you're going to do new songs though. Resteps are mostly frowned upon lol.

Originally Posted by zebdal the legend

^^ you have all I have.
Maybe, it will be cool if we created a fan website of DJ Sharpnel, with all the infos of this songs, all the samples references (I have a big quantity of his references thanks to wikipedia), maybe a top 50 of his songs, etc...
And it'll be easier for you to find the songs you want if all sharpnel fans are on the same website.

Be my guest. If it turns out well, I could help maintain the website. Maybe do some graphics. I have lots of resources for information about DJ Sharpnel and his music. Wikipedia is kind of incomplete on DJ Sharpnel albums and music.

But I'm not gonna host any hard to get sharpnel songs on it.

[kommisar[os]]

this pack gets a 4/10