Let the shutdown begin

[GuidoHunter]

Pretty sure adlp brought that up because I chided him a while back for calling himself "pro-life" but also saying, "except in the case of rape and incest", since such an exception is morally indefensible and logically bankrupt.

But yeah, not an abortion thread. PMs are welcome, though.

Originally Posted by FoJaR

and then after that failed experiment in radicalism, 2012 happened.

2012 also gave us some great conservative leaders and culled some of the "establishment" republicans from the herd. Of course, there were several bad candidates, too, like Todd Akin and Mitt Romney, but 2012 was hardly a loss for conservatism.

--Guido

[FoJaR]

Originally Posted by GuidoHunter

Pretty sure adlp brought that up because I chided him a while back for calling himself "pro-life" but also saying, "except in the case of rape and incest", since such an exception is morally indefensible and logically bankrupt.

But yeah, not an abortion thread. PMs are welcome, though.



2012 also gave us some great conservative leaders and culled some of the "establishment" republicans from the herd. Of course, there were several bad candidates, too, like Todd Akin and Mitt Romney, but 2012 was hardly a loss for conservatism.

--Guido

if you look at senate and house seats, it was a loss.

i'm looking forward to 2014.

[0o0]

i'm looking forward to lunch

[Litodude]

dems has senate

[igotrhythm]

Originally Posted by GuidoHunter

Pretty sure adlp brought that up because I chided him a while back for calling himself "pro-life" but also saying, "except in the case of rape and incest", since such an exception is morally indefensible and logically bankrupt.

But yeah, not an abortion thread. PMs are welcome, though.



2012 also gave us some great conservative leaders and culled some of the "establishment" republicans from the herd. Of course, there were several bad candidates, too, like Todd Akin and Mitt Romney, but 2012 was hardly a loss for conservatism.

--Guido

But Akin and Romney did themselves the favor of getting in bed with the religious right, which really tanked their election chances once their indiscretions got out. And that's what we call a self-correcting problem.

[hi19hi19]

idk if this has been posted yet but I'm so glad that it is a thing:

http://drunkdialcongress.org/

[~kitty~]

This thread has a lot of fighting in it... and a lot of oversimplified political talk.

Also, I think it's worth pointing out that the United States is not extreme liberal nor extreme conservative. We are quite centrist when it comes down to it. What I hear is that both parties is to blame, but personally I think the ones who started it should end it because this is screwing with everyone... not just the United States.

[Litodude]

related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jd-iaYLO1A

[Reincarnate]

but both sides do it!

[FoJaR]

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10...s-weeks/196366

this is the kind of person that fox news promotes.

[Air En Trance]

Personally I find it sad that Congress can't get along and get things done. A little negotiation would work here.

[adlp]

Originally Posted by FoJaR

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10...s-weeks/196366

this is the kind of person that fox news promotes.

msnbc promotes people like al sharpton who are race baiters and crackpots like chris matthews

[JohnRedWolf87]

Does anyone know how to remove Tea_Party.dmg? That might be part of the problem.

[Air En Trance]

Originally Posted by adlp

msnbc promotes people like al sharpton who are race baiters and crackpots like chris matthews

nobody watches msnbc

[Air En Trance]

Originally Posted by JohnRedWolf87

Does anyone know how to remove Tea_Party.dmg? That might be part of the problem.

might wanna look at obama and harry reid too

[MixMasterLar]

Are we just going to forget about the cluster**ck that is Obamacare and the fact that no one actually knows what all of the 26,000 pages(note: three freakin' zeroes) (again: 26,000 pages) of it all says/declares/changes? And it's not like the GOP is trying to "win" anything; they just want it delayed because the timing is bad (Like the fact that our economy sucks, and right now no one knows enough about the damn bill). Congress has admitted that they don't understand how it would work in practice; why on earth would anyone in their right mind want to ok, pass and fund that?

I'm not trying to say GOP did the best plan when it came to fighting this, but you are foolish to support a bill that claims to say something as simple as "Everyone get this set quality of insurance,[ plus some labor laws ]" when it is so freakin' big. Just what are they trying to sneak in this shit?

PS I am affiliated with none of these parties

[igotrhythm]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Are we just going to forget about the cluster**ck that is Obamacare and the fact that no one actually knows what all of the 26,000 pages(note: three freakin' zeroes) (again: 26,000 pages) of it all says/declares/changes? And it's not like the GOP is trying to "win" anything; they just want it delayed because the timing is bad (Like the fact that our economy sucks, and right now no one knows enough about the damn bill). Congress has admitted that they don't understand how it would work in practice; why on earth would anyone in their right mind want to ok, pass and fund that?

I'm not trying to say GOP did the best plan when it came to fighting this, but you are foolish to support a bill that claims to say something as simple as "Everyone get this set quality of insurance,[ plus some labor laws ]" when it is so freakin' big. Just what are they trying to sneak in this shit?

PS I am affiliated with none of these parties

It's not a bill, it's a fucking LAW.

http://www.upworthy.com/see-this-dai...turally?c=ufb1

[Reincarnate]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Are we just going to forget about the cluster**ck that is Obamacare and the fact that no one actually knows what all of the 26,000 pages(note: three freakin' zeroes) (again: 26,000 pages) of it all says/declares/changes? And it's not like the GOP is trying to "win" anything; they just want it delayed because the timing is bad (Like the fact that our economy sucks, and right now no one knows enough about the damn bill). Congress has admitted that they don't understand how it would work in practice; why on earth would anyone in their right mind want to ok, pass and fund that?

I'm not trying to say GOP did the best plan when it came to fighting this, but you are foolish to support a bill that claims to say something as simple as "Everyone get this set quality of insurance,[ plus some labor laws ]" when it is so freakin' big. Just what are they trying to sneak in this shit?

PS I am affiliated with none of these parties

https://www.healthcare.gov/where-can...able-care-act/

[adlp]

Originally Posted by FoJaR

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10...s-weeks/196366

this is the kind of person that fox news promotes.

ALSO DONT FORGET MSNBC PROMOTES BiLL FUCKING AYERS

fuck

[adlp]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

https://www.healthcare.gov/where-can...able-care-act/

you know this law is great when all the people who made it want to be exempt from it