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ledwix · 09-30-2007, 11:36 PM

NWE is easy to AAA compared to most masters songs. blackflag didn't feel like that good of a run, really. I'd rate it high VC for FFR because of the jumpstream and jack syndrome.

edit: I'm probably not up to date on all the difficulty ratings lately, because I haven't played any new songs besides this. But it seems like people are good enough now that it isn't FMO.

stlunatic0124 · 09-30-2007, 11:37 PM

oh maybe i'm just getting better then - epidermis is on the easy side

kcfp_Ice · 09-30-2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

i don't exist.

Lol, did you see the screenshot I posted?
I hate whoring that song.

Especially for 2 weeks.

**bmah** · 09-30-2007, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprite-

lol epidermis is 100% FMO. none would escape i'm not so sure. probably not though

I played Epidermis for the first time just now and holy ****. It's HARD. Agreed, 100% FMO.

MrRubix · 09-30-2007, 11:41 PM

I've always thought NWE is a Very Challenging. I don't think it deserves FMO status. Epidermis is definitely an FMO but I don't see why people think it's so difficult compared to other FMO's. It's just an unusual file, but it isn't that much harder at all sans some framegluts and trills that aren't so bad.

**Sprite-** · 09-30-2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MrRubix

Epidermis is definitely an FMO but I don't see why people think it's so difficult compared to other FMO's. It's just an unusual file, but it isn't that much harder at all sans some framegluts and trills that aren't so bad.

I think it's just the way it looks. It looks REALLY intimidating. (to us normal players, not you)

MrRubix · 09-30-2007, 11:47 PM

It's definitely the appearance. Maybe it's just because I play music off (music on... that song is just creepy, lol. It feels awkward and uncomfortable the whole way through with the music playing along).

**BzT** · 10-1-2007, 12:03 AM

dont know y this is so hard

**dore** · 10-1-2007, 12:11 AM

The difficulty ratings shouldn't go down just because people are getting better. If more people can do a difficulty then so be it, but the difficulty should not be adjusted to compensate.

With that said, NWE is definitely a FMO. It has a crapton of jack syndrome, lots of trills, jumpstream, and has lots of awkward rhythms (the jump-tapjump--jump-tapjump comes to mind).

I'm so bold to say that Epidermis is borderline FGO. The file is ridiculously hard, but it's well made, fun, and flows, and therefore seems easier. But every note in a trill being a 4-framer definitely is not easy.

The reason why it doesn't compare to the FGOs is because it has nothing retarded: no 2-framers for no reason, no 8-minute-long jumpstreams for no reason, etc.

stlunatic0124 · 10-1-2007, 01:18 AM

i FC it every time, if I FC it every time I don't think it should be FMO

ledwix · 10-1-2007, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dore

The difficulty ratings shouldn't go down just because people are getting better. If more people can do a difficulty then so be it, but the difficulty should not be adjusted to compensate.

By this logic, CIA Rave should be a FMO, and Secret Zombie Room should be Very Difficult. I think ratings have really changed over time and still need to.

**Sprite-** · 10-1-2007, 01:25 AM

delirium was once a FMO

**dore** · 10-1-2007, 01:32 AM

Yeah but back then all of the difficulties were retarded. FotBB was labeled as 13/12 FFS.

The difficulties should not change from when they were standardized to the FFR Actual Song Difficulties thread. Expanded, maybe, but shifted, no.

**Tasselfoot** · 10-1-2007, 01:39 AM

those ratings were done by LD.... all LD did was take the dwi rating given by the stepfile author. clearly that is not accurate. in fact, it didn't take into account the file at all.

so comparing difficulties from when LD did it to now is stupid.

ps - none would escape is a FMO. low on the FMOs, but a FMO. Epidermis... high FMO. doubt it's FGO because it doesn't have any 2 or 3 framers, mainly.

MrRubix · 10-1-2007, 01:42 AM

Technically Max 300 at one point would be deemed FGO 9_9

I think difficulty ratings are best determined by comparing songs to songs of "obvious" rank (e.g. Piano Etude is an obvious FGO, Vertex Beta is an obvious FMO, etc). None Would Survive is tricky because it's harder than most VC's but easier than most FMO's. I think you could justify either one (high VC or low FMO), but my gut says it's a VC (only because I feel like it's a far cry from most of the other FMO's and isn't *that* much harder than most of the VC's). Just my opinion.

**Sprite-** · 10-1-2007, 01:46 AM

I agree that NWE should be a vc. It is much easier than any other FMO. But, I also don't see it being harder than some of the top vc songs.

**dore** · 10-1-2007, 01:47 AM

NWE is definitely 78 or 79, it's clearly harder than Silence, VB, Sympathizer, and K8107.

daringdaniel1111 · 10-1-2007, 01:50 AM

Staying on topic ftw

**Kotarouchan** · 10-1-2007, 01:50 AM

IMO, NWE is easier than Nova...

MrRubix · 10-1-2007, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dore

NWE is definitely 78 or 79, it's clearly harder than Silence, VB, Sympathizer, and K8107.

Whoaaaa this I totally disagree with, especially VB and Symp

09-30-2007, 11:36 PM	#23961
ledwix Giant Pi Operator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: California Age: 33 Posts: 2,878	Re: FFR Scores NWE is easy to AAA compared to most masters songs. blackflag didn't feel like that good of a run, really. I'd rate it high VC for FFR because of the jumpstream and jack syndrome. edit: I'm probably not up to date on all the difficulty ratings lately, because I haven't played any new songs besides this. But it seems like people are good enough now that it isn't FMO. Last edited by ledwix; 09-30-2007 at 11:39 PM..

09-30-2007, 11:37 PM	#23962
stlunatic0124 FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,228	Re: FFR Scores oh maybe i'm just getting better then - epidermis is on the easy side

09-30-2007, 11:41 PM	#23965
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: FFR Scores I've always thought NWE is a Very Challenging. I don't think it deserves FMO status. Epidermis is definitely an FMO but I don't see why people think it's so difficult compared to other FMO's. It's just an unusual file, but it isn't that much harder at all sans some framegluts and trills that aren't so bad.

09-30-2007, 11:47 PM	#23967
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: FFR Scores It's definitely the appearance. Maybe it's just because I play music off (music on... that song is just creepy, lol. It feels awkward and uncomfortable the whole way through with the music playing along).

10-1-2007, 12:03 AM	#23968
BzT Chronic Bud Toker Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: w/e Age: 31 Posts: 940	Re: FFR Scores dont know y this is so hard __________________

10-1-2007, 12:11 AM	#23969
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: FFR Scores The difficulty ratings shouldn't go down just because people are getting better. If more people can do a difficulty then so be it, but the difficulty should not be adjusted to compensate. With that said, NWE is definitely a FMO. It has a crapton of jack syndrome, lots of trills, jumpstream, and has lots of awkward rhythms (the jump-tapjump--jump-tapjump comes to mind). I'm so bold to say that Epidermis is borderline FGO. The file is ridiculously hard, but it's well made, fun, and flows, and therefore seems easier. But every note in a trill being a 4-framer definitely is not easy. The reason why it doesn't compare to the FGOs is because it has nothing retarded: no 2-framers for no reason, no 8-minute-long jumpstreams for no reason, etc. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

10-1-2007, 01:18 AM	#23970
stlunatic0124 FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,228	Re: FFR Scores i FC it every time, if I FC it every time I don't think it should be FMO

10-1-2007, 01:25 AM	#23972
Sprite- HAVE ME WITH VODKA Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Age: 35 Posts: 7,316	Re: FFR Scores delirium was once a FMO

10-1-2007, 01:32 AM	#23973
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: FFR Scores Yeah but back then all of the difficulties were retarded. FotBB was labeled as 13/12 FFS. The difficulties should not change from when they were standardized to the FFR Actual Song Difficulties thread. Expanded, maybe, but shifted, no. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

10-1-2007, 01:39 AM	#23974
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: FFR Scores those ratings were done by LD.... all LD did was take the dwi rating given by the stepfile author. clearly that is not accurate. in fact, it didn't take into account the file at all. so comparing difficulties from when LD did it to now is stupid. ps - none would escape is a FMO. low on the FMOs, but a FMO. Epidermis... high FMO. doubt it's FGO because it doesn't have any 2 or 3 framers, mainly. __________________ RIP

10-1-2007, 01:42 AM	#23975
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: FFR Scores Technically Max 300 at one point would be deemed FGO 9_9 I think difficulty ratings are best determined by comparing songs to songs of "obvious" rank (e.g. Piano Etude is an obvious FGO, Vertex Beta is an obvious FMO, etc). None Would Survive is tricky because it's harder than most VC's but easier than most FMO's. I think you could justify either one (high VC or low FMO), but my gut says it's a VC (only because I feel like it's a far cry from most of the other FMO's and isn't that much harder than most of the VC's). Just my opinion.

10-1-2007, 01:46 AM	#23976
Sprite- HAVE ME WITH VODKA Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Age: 35 Posts: 7,316	Re: FFR Scores I agree that NWE should be a vc. It is much easier than any other FMO. But, I also don't see it being harder than some of the top vc songs.

10-1-2007, 01:47 AM	#23977
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: FFR Scores NWE is definitely 78 or 79, it's clearly harder than Silence, VB, Sympathizer, and K8107. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

10-1-2007, 01:50 AM	#23978
daringdaniel1111 FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Riverside,Ca Posts: 617	Re: FFR Scores Staying on topic ftw __________________ Public AAAs: 229 Total AAAs: 260 Fc's: 363 Latest AAA: Toph's OP Best AAA: Toph's OP Avg Rank: 67 Tier Points:439 (408 + 31 for 264 AAAs) Style: Spread

10-1-2007, 01:50 AM	#23979
Kotarouchan I only need 3 seconds :) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South California Age: 36 Posts: 2,030	Re: FFR Scores IMO, NWE is easier than Nova... __________________

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