Which is more important in life?

[GG_Guru]

Education or money?

Education is something that no one can take away from you and it will always be there when you need it. Money on the other hand, is essential to survive and without money you would not be able to afford an education. In my opinion, both of them go hand in hand, but there can only be one better choice. If you only had to choose one then which do you think will benefit you more?

My choice would be education because I can use the knowledge that I gain to earn money, but there are slight technicalities involved. For example, in order for me to get an education I would need to get money first to pay for a college tuition. In this case money is essential to survive, right? I have a loophole in my theory.

Let's say an individual gets a full time job at McDonalds and is on minimum wage. They save up their money and in three months they are able to afford a tuition at their nearest community college. Now they have the ability to get an education, but there is only problem, time. They have the job and they have the education but for them to excel in either of the two they would need to sacrifice one for the other. You need money to pay your rent, phone bill, transportation, and food. You need an education to gain the knowledge and skills required to attain a salaried job that can provide you with higher and better chances of survival.

So it comes down to these options: education and money. What would you choose and why?

[mi40]

its hard to get education without money

but without education its hard to get money





so u need to get both

[Reincarnate]

This is not a particularly useful question because we could just say "I choose money -- and then I'd buy education" or "I choose education -- and now I am smart enough to earn a lot of money."

[GG_Guru]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

This is not a particularly useful question because we could just say "I choose money -- and then I'd buy education" or "I choose education -- and now I am smart enough to earn a lot of money."

Please elaborate on your answer.

[Reincarnate]

Originally Posted by GG_Guru

Please elaborate on your answer.

There's not much to elaborate on. I'm saying that based on the way the question is structured, you can answer the question either way and effectively say "If I pick one, I can use it to get the other and have both in the end"

[Spenner]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

"I choose money -- and then I'd buy education" or "I choose education -- and now I am smart enough to earn a lot of money."

Also I think that both of these happen to most of us, who go on to college/university. Start off with free school getting smart enough to get money to buy better education to get more money etc. The importance level kinda varies based on what point in someone's life you're evaluating it in, but I don't think one can ever become unimportant if the other is sought after.

[psychoangel691]

You don't have to sacrifice one for the other. AJ and I are both going to college, both have a job, pay rent, utilities, etc, and are raising two children.

[GG_Guru]

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

You don't have to sacrifice one for the other. AJ and I are both going to college, both have a job, pay rent, utilities, etc, and are raising two children.

Ah yes that's true, but I noticed a keypoint in your answer. You used the term "both" which means that "both" of you can support each other while the other is at school and vice versa. This is currently what I'm doing right now with my family as well. My mom and I both have jobs and we both go to school at the same time. I help pay the bills and she helps me by providing shelter and food. This is a good way of surviving and being able to get access to education because in today's modern society reality human beings need the help of another to survive. What do I mean by this? If a person lived alone then how would this apply?

For example, without a consumer we cannot sell a product and without a product we cannot sell to a consumer therefore a consumer would not exist without the other, right? Or another example would be running a business. In order to run a successful business (employer) you need the help of other people (employees) to help you get the job done because you would not be able to manage doing everything by yourself.

If you live alone then the same still applies to everything else I just said because you are still depending on the mailman to deliver your mail, you are still depending on the people who work for the trash company to come pick up the garbage that you leave on the lawn in the morning, you still depend on your employer to give you a paycheck every two weeks. People need each other in order to survive, so in your case if you are ever financially stuck in a pickle then you have AJ or other family to rely on until you get back on your feet. You still have your education and the money is there.

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by GG_Guru

Ah yes that's true, but I noticed a keypoint in your answer. You used the term "both" which means that "both" of you can support each other while the other is at school and vice versa. This is currently what I'm doing right now with my family as well. My mom and I both have jobs and we both go to school at the same time. I help pay the bills and she helps me by providing shelter and food. This is a good way of surviving and being able to get access to education because in today's modern society reality human beings need the help of another to survive. What do I mean by this? If a person lived alone then how would this apply?

For example, without a consumer we cannot sell a product and without a product we cannot sell to a consumer therefore a consumer would not exist without the other, right? Or another example would be running a business. In order to run a successful business (employer) you need the help of other people (employees) to help you get the job done because you would not be able to manage doing everything by yourself.

If you live alone then the same still applies to everything else I just said because you are still depending on the mailman to deliver your mail, you are still depending on the people who work for the trash company to come pick up the garbage that you leave on the lawn in the morning, you still depend on your employer to give you a paycheck every two weeks. People need each other in order to survive, so in your case if you are ever financially stuck in a pickle then you have AJ or other family to rely on until you get back on your feet. You still have your education and the money is there.

Even if I were on my own I'd still be getting an education and making money. Do you not realize the tons of options there are now? I also have no idea where the hell anything else you brought up comes in when it comes to having to sacrifice one for the other. You don't have to sacrifice one for the other you just have to be willing to bust your butt. Ask Marcus he put himself through school and whatnot.

Oh and also, no I don't have other family to help me out.

[reuben_tate]

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

You don't have to sacrifice one for the other you just have to be willing to bust your butt.

This is true, you just need to willing to work your butt off to get things done. However, I will say that if one plans to go to school and work; even if you are not sacrificing one for the other, doing both means that you are sacrificing something most likely. More specifically, you are sacrificing your time that you might have used for other things such as sleeping, socializing, hobbies/interests, video games, etc.

So for some people that really value their sleep, social life, hobbies, video games, etc; they feasibly can not do both because they value many other things as well in life that they aren't willing to sacrifice.

[TC_Halogen]

There's nothing to elaborate on in this case. As Marcus said, you can get money to pay for an education -- or, you can get an education (through means of the government) to get a good paying job for stability. This question doesn't allow for much discussion.

If you want to be as simple as possible on this question, the logical answer is money. Yes, you can live under primal circumstances and hunt for food/create shelter, etc, but you realistically need money to support yourself for living a normal lifestyle. Not having an education isn't detrimental to your state of being -- you could potentially survive without an education through lower-paying jobs in areas where housing is incredibly inexpensive, and still be able to pay for food/water/other necessities to survive.

[GG_Guru]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

There's nothing to elaborate on in this case. As Marcus said, you can get money to pay for an education -- or, you can get an education (through means of the government) to get a good paying job for stability. This question doesn't allow for much discussion.

If you want to be as simple as possible on this question, the logical answer is money. Yes, you can live under primal circumstances and hunt for food/create shelter, etc, but you realistically need money to support yourself for living a normal lifestyle. Not having an education isn't detrimental to your state of being -- you could potentially survive without an education through lower-paying jobs in areas where housing is incredibly inexpensive, and still be able to pay for food/water/other necessities to survive.

Thank you.

[Coolboyrulez0]

yes

[Pseudo Enigma]

Education. You can learn outside of school. Life is a learning experience.

With that said, fuck university/college for now.

[Reincarnate]

I'll put it this way -- let's say you could only get one but without the other.

In this scenario, I'd pick money over education, easily.

[TheSaxRunner05]

In most instances, you need education to get money and you need money to get education.

Kinda like you need a job to get experience and you need experience to get a job.

It's part of the reason class mobility is at its lowest point in decades.

In fact, here's a map of one measure of class mobility -

http://onpoint.wbur.org/2013/07/23/upward-mobility

[cedolad]

Now by education, do you mean formal education? Like in a classroom setting with teachers? Because like pseudo said, life is a learning experience, and that is far more valuable to me than money.

[GG_Guru]

Originally Posted by cedolad

Now by education, do you mean formal education? Like in a classroom setting with teachers? Because like pseudo said, life is a learning experience, and that is far more valuable to me than money.

Yes. I do mean formal education or education that can prove to be of value for you in the future.

[Reincarnate]

No matter how you slice it, not having money sucks. When you are poor, you're constantly in survival mode just trying to make ends meet. Being poor also means you have no buffer to protect yourself against unforeseen circumstances. You don't have much freedom/control/power over much in your life when you have to devote it to scraping by.

[Spenner]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

No matter how you slice it, not having money sucks. When you are poor, you're constantly in survival mode just trying to make ends meet. Being poor also means you have no buffer to protect yourself against unforeseen circumstances. You don't have much freedom/control/power over much in your life when you have to devote it to scraping by.

It depends how someone adapts to those survival circumstances imo. Some people are totally happy leaving and living off the land, and never see a need to return (see: Into The Wild), or moving to be a monk or part of a tribe lmao.

Overall its just that if you're poor while in circumstances that MUST involve money, it sucks. You might end up on the streets which would probably lead to worse things unless things turn around. If you're poor but in a situation that doesn't involve money (natives in the amazon or something) then it doesn't really matter much. Depends what system of capital you want to live with. Mind you there's obviously a lot that you have to independently accomplish by doing that, not easy, but some people live for it and like it better. You don't have to be devoted to scraping by when most of your time is spent doing things that you need/seeking them directly rather than working to be able to pay for it.

Medicine is obviously a concern here lol. Not saying I'd do it personally.