Help with drum layering (vid included)

[N.T.M.]

So I'm making this file for a pack (so it's presently unreleased). I'm kinda unsure as to what I should do with the drums though. Read the vid description. I mean some of those 16ths don't layer and some don't even align correctly (like they don't align with the main 4th note drum hits). Should I just drop the 16ths for the drums? They're barely audible anyways. I just don't want things to feel too empty.

Any suggestions for the drum patterns? I just made a repeating pattern each time they occured.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbNi1...e=channel_page

Oh and there's some audio lag, but I put the assist tick on to help with that. I guess it doesn't really matter though.

Thanks guys!!

-Nick

[who_cares973]

i new this was your thread

i dont see what the problem is with the drum layering i think it's fine

[N.T.M.]

Originally Posted by who_cares973

i new this was your thread

i dont see what the problem is with the drum layering i think it's fine

Is that a bad thing? I don't wanna be the guy that makes stupid threads. I just figured I could get some more opinions here. And there are so many great artist here. It's often very helpful to get some feedback by other people. Sometimes they'll catch stuff you miss.

[who_cares973]

not a bad thing lol you usually name your threads similarly so i assumed it was you.

you also made this thread when the least people are on ffr so dont expect some feedback for a while

[Zybanthia]

Between trying to hear it in a recorded video and trying to hear it over the assist tick, I can't say one way or the other if it's worth omitting the 16ths at the beginning... but, it looks really fun, and the steps seem to make a lot of sense. I was actually kind of wishing I could play it.

Not sure of the quality of the stepfile near the end, because I didn't watch that far (it's already past my beddytime here), but it seems cool. Maybe I'll check out some of your sims.

Oh, and to add to the question on your video: personally, if there's not a pitch relevancy thing to take into account, or a pitch relevancy thing would be really repetitive and boring, I think random patterns are the way to go. Drums can often be random.

[N.T.M.]

Originally Posted by Zybanthia

Between trying to hear it in a recorded video and trying to hear it over the assist tick, I can't say one way or the other if it's worth omitting the 16ths at the beginning... but, it looks really fun, and the steps seem to make a lot of sense. I was actually kind of wishing I could play it.

Not sure of the quality of the stepfile near the end, because I didn't watch that far (it's already past my beddytime here), but it seems cool. Maybe I'll check out some of your sims.

Oh, and to add to the question on your video: personally, if there's not a pitch relevancy thing to take into account, or a pitch relevancy thing would be really repetitive and boring, I think random patterns are the way to go. Drums can often be random.

I was PR with the guitar, but yeah, I agree regarding the drums. And regarding my other sims: only check out my most recent stuff cuzz only with my recent files have I fully grasped good layering, PR, etc. My LTE went to **** for a few reasons. Prolly don't DL that.

And the end has some weird tempo shifts. It's dead-on sync though. It was weird though. It'd go like from 135 BPM to 115, then to 90. Took freakin' forever to step cuz of those tempo shifts!!! I almost gave up.

Originally Posted by who_cares973

not a bad thing lol you usually name your threads similarly so i assumed it was you.

you also made this thread when the least people are on ffr so dont expect some feedback for a while

True. I just figured I'd do it while it was on my mind though.

[Patashu]

I'd just like to say it's nice to see you branching out from df

[giganutsauce]

kick drums on the left

hi hats on the right

Originally Posted by N.T.M.

I almost gave up.

please do

[ShAiOnEi]

I wouldn't say this is a good song to step in the first place.

[Patashu]

Originally Posted by giganutsauce

kick drums on the left

hi hats on the right

get out

[robertsona]

torrent is suddenly pissing me off

[dandandamdandan1111]

wow this is really repetitive

[N.T.M.]

Originally Posted by dandandamdandan1111

wow this is really repetitive

Some parts are. That's why I cut the song. You've heard the whole thing I assume? It's like twice as long and generally the same stuff.

Originally Posted by ShAiOnEi

I wouldn't say this is a good song to step in the first place.

Not the best, but certainly not a very poor choice. I mean it still offers a nice solo.

Originally Posted by giganutsauce

please do

Always so supportive .

Originally Posted by Patashu

I'd just like to say it's nice to see you branching out from df

I still like DF, but I'm gonna be stepping other bands for now. Maybe eventually just the solos cuz I still have a few DF requests.

Originally Posted by robertsona

torrent is suddenly pissing me off

He's just being torrent. =P

Originally Posted by giganutsauce

kick drums on the left

hi hats on the right

I was gonna layer the hi hats but there were too many. I was thinking maybe minifreezes, but in many places they'd just be everywhere.

[Patashu]

If you do it right you can swap to the hi-hat when nothing more interesting is going on

assuming the hi-hat itself is interesting, if it's just playing 8ths don't bother

[N.T.M.]

Originally Posted by Patashu

If you do it right you can swap to the hi-hat when nothing more interesting is going on

assuming the hi-hat itself is interesting, if it's just playing 8ths don't bother

They become very pronounced towards the end. Think minifreezes would be nice there?

[Mr. Bob]

Originally Posted by giganutsauce

please do

dude shut up lmao

i also want to say that this file looks like it would be the first of yours that i would enjoy

[moches]

let's hope so.

:watches video:

EDIT: Okay, it looks pretty sweet. You might want to layer in some drums when the music gets quieter or there's not much going on, but otherwise, great.

[N.T.M.]

Originally Posted by Mr. Bob

dude shut up lmao

i also want to say that this file looks like it would be the first of yours that i would enjoy

Glad to hear that! I think I was stepping the wrong stuff before =P. I'm gonna branch out more with what music I step. I still wanna tackle DT. Hopefully I'll make a good DT file in the near future.

Originally Posted by moches

let's hope so.

:watches video:

EDIT: Okay, it looks pretty sweet. You might want to layer in some drums when the music gets quieter or there's not much going on, but otherwise, great.

True. Often there's just not much happening. What slow parts are you referring to though? Would you point them out in the video?